WatchmanOnTheWall
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This thread is just for you daqq.![]()
This thread is just for you daqq.
The reason I and others believe the tribulation will start in 2022 and Jesus returns in 2029 is because 2029 will be the start of the 6000th year of the Earth's history and Jesus returns to rule for his 1000 year Millennial reign as explained in this thread:
http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?127731-God-s-7000-year-plan&highlight=
And voiced in these earlier threads:
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...h-connected-to-Jesus-second-coming&highlight=
http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?125145-Jesus-Return&highlight=
http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?127115-Did-Jesus-die-on-the-4000th-year&highlight=
The Tribulation starting in 2022 is based on it lasting 7 years as according to the prophet Daniel.
Well to be more accurate Jesus returns on the clouds on the Day of Atonement and sets foot on the Mount of Olives at Tabernacles. According to Torah Calendar that will be the 19th and 24th of September 2029 respectively:
http://www.torahcalendar.com/Calendar.asp?PYM=Y2029M7
Too long. There's a rule about long posts.
Well done for finding it, Did you use a search tool?
BTW I don't why you think it is so important? I was merely pointing out that in that conversation I was only stating the year, while you were talking about the day and hour. You seemed to think I was trying to trick you or something, when I was merely pointing out your error. Perhaps you can not see this? In other words just because I also believe I know the day does not take away the fact I also believe I know the year, (although I am not the only one). Or another way to put it, to help you understand; Jesus never said anything about not knowing the year.
But to answer your point (which I may have done before), when Jesus said ‘no one knows the day’ He said it in the present tense, He did not say no one would ever know. Jesus said the OT could not be discredited and in the OT we find:
Amos 3:7
Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.
And in the Torah we also read:
Deuteronomy 18:13-22 KJV
13 Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.
14 For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.
15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
16 According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.
17 And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.
18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
YOUR version of Messiah is therefore a false prophet because you say that some of what he foretold has still yet not come to pass even after nearly two thousand years. YOUR version of the Apocalypse is also a lie because you say that some of the things written therein have still not yet come to pass even after nearly two thousand years and even though the author boldly tells you that those things are to shortly and quickly come to pass. So because you can neither see nor walk according to the SPIRIT, (for the Spirit of the prophecy is plainly stated to be the Testimony of Messiah, Rev19:10), you therefore cannot see that those things in the Apocalypse concern things that have been going on since the book was written: each in his or her own appointed times, times appointed of the Father, (Gal4:1-2), for those things concern the walk, that is, halacha, and not your fanciful futurist one-time-only global holocaust and false interpretations according to the eyes and mind of your flesh-man Esau nature who walks according to his belly like the serpent. Both you and the OP serve a false messiah, and the OP openly displays his error by the fact that he thinks he is Michael the Archangel, while you reveal it in your idiotic prognostications which you imagine have never before been fulfilled because you see the Apocalypse as a world wide one-time-only global holocaust event where Elohim will annihilate ninety percent of His own creation.
After all, those are your own words, dear false prophet:
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1. The Satanic alien deception begins in 2022 and lasts for the 7 year tribulation period when Jesus returns on 24th September 2029. The image will be set up in country after country and Israel will be the last country to accept the image when it too will run out of food. Satan will have the technology and power to provide free food and energy.
2. Satan will return to Earth in 2022 posing as the supreme alien of the universe and guess what he will look just like Jesus. He will say to the world the Christian history of him is wrong while the Muslim history is true and that he is called Isa, the Muslim name for Jesus. This will very quickly cause the great falling away of the Christian Church that Paul spoke of in 2 Thessalonians. Then Satan will go to Damascus to select the Muslim Mahdi in accordance with Quranic prophecy, however this will really be the Anti-Christ of Biblical prophecy. Seven years of hell on Earth ensues and 90%+ of the population dies.
According to you Elohim hates His own creation:
Your god is therefore Thanatos, (Death).
Too long. There's a rule about long posts.
The tribulation is not 7 years long and will not start in the future.The tribulation starts in 2022 and Jesus returns in 2029
The temple that will be rebuilt on Temple Mount at the end of the tribulation will be a new one.Yes I think you've told me this before and we obviously disagree but remind me what temple was rebuilt on the temple mount? Did you mean the Roman temple to Jupiter built by Hadrian or the Dome of the Rock?
This thread is just for you daqq.
The reason I and others believe the tribulation will start in 2022 and Jesus returns in 2029 is because 2029 will be the start of the 6000th year of the Earth's history and Jesus returns to rule for his 1000 year Millennial reign as explained in this thread:
http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?127731-God-s-7000-year-plan&highlight=
And voiced in these earlier threads:
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...h-connected-to-Jesus-second-coming&highlight=
http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?125145-Jesus-Return&highlight=
http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?127115-Did-Jesus-die-on-the-4000th-year&highlight=
The Tribulation starting in 2022 is based on it lasting 7 years as according to the prophet Daniel.
John 7:2 & 8 – But when the Jewish Festival of Tabernacles was near, [Jesus said] “You go to the festival. I am not going up to this festival, because my time has not yet fully come.”
Jesus then purposefully misses the feast of Tabernacles which is on day 15 of month 7 and lasts 8 days. However, Jesus does turn up after having deliberately missed this specific day:
John 7:10 & 14 – But after his brothers had gone up to the feast, then Jesus also went up, not publicly but in secret. About halfway through the feast Jesus went up into the temple and began teaching.
How astoundingly un-amazing and dis-interesting: the pseudo-prophet cannot see that the Master himself cuts the WEEK of Sukkot-Tabernacles in HALF. Moreover there are one hundred and eighty days from Shemini Atzeret, the last great day of the feast, (Joh7:37), to the End of the shabuim-yamim of Daniel: and every numberer knows that one hundred and eighty days multiplied by the seven yamim-hours in a day of prayer amount to one thousand two hundred and sixty yamim, (7x180=1260). :chuckle:
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I don't have a day job. I work day and night; for God.
Well at least I try to...
You can not discern God's Calendar but you get a whole bunch of Bible verse completely mixed up with a Mumbo-Jumbo nonsensical theory all of your own. Where as my understanding is understood by many others.
He says Yammin in rabbim the third yom yom so that you may yam yam that the yamim rabbim in this shabuim are not one thousand two hundred and sixty yamim, but yom, that is to say, the full yamim shabuim one thousand two hundred and sixty days: which are three yam yams and six months. If you cannot discern these Rabbims even after they have been yom yam to you then you will never shubuim the shabuim yamim of haNavi, O daqq the daqq daqq. Quit your day yam ASAP. :chuckle:
Your keys were given to you by a clown. :flamer:
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http://biblehub.com/interlinear/hosea/6-2.htm
Jesus rose on day 16 month 1 year 4000, which was on the first day of the week, not the 8th day. (7th April 30AD).
Mocking is pointless. Learning and debating is what is needed. You are only looking foolish in God's Eyes.
Since the destruction of Jerusalem came and went in 70-2 AD, none of this matters. The NT is replete with the expectation of everything ending 'right after' that event, but also has the allowance that God might NOT end the world at that point.
The only specific thing we will encounter is the 'short time of rebellion' mentioned at the end of the long reign of Christ we are now in, which will harass all believers, and will be destroyed by the presence of Christ.
Everything else was about the events of that generation, as the 1st page of the Rev says, and the time stamp of Lk 23:28 establishes. Unless you think we become adults in X000 years rather than 20-30 it mentions.