Arthur Brain
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Because that's what people hope to have in a long term relationship? Plenty marriages do work out, just not all.
Three Men Marry (each other) in Colombia
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Because that's what people hope to have in a long term relationship? Plenty marriages do work out, just not all.
glassjester
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It's just one more step in the continuing devaluation and trivialization of marriage.
Arthur Brain
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To you maybe, not to me and not to most I would wager.
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glassjester
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So when two people vow to spend their lives together, and to make it work, why is neither person actually able to hold the other to that vow?
Seems pointless.
glassjester
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Yes, five years as of next week!
No. It. Does. Not. Those other actions I listed are done without consent. There is always a victim. You cannot show a victim or aggressive action in two partners CONSENTING to marry.
Desperate much? Do I REALLY need to point out to you that children CANNOT consent to sex ... neither can animals ...
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Not in the same category ...
Indeed ... many heterosexual married couples have devalued marriage for several decades. No reason to pretend heterosexual marriage is sacred.
glassjester
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I meant wife-beating harms people.
Who mentioned children? Why can't two consenting, adult brothers marry?
Also, we don't need consent of animals to keep them captive, to kill them, to skin them, to experiment on them, to slaughter them, to eat them...
The category is marriage.
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Arthur Brain
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If the relationship is past repair then sad as that is, there's no point in pretending otherwise and it can be for all manner of reasons. Is there any point in staying in a relationship that isn't working and isn't going to? You're very simplistic on this.
So you willingly admit that gay marriage does NOT harm people. Well that's a start.
That wasn't part of *my* discussion. Feel free to start another thread to discuss whether or not two brothers should be allowed to marry.
The topic was marriage. Do you wish to discuss whether or not animals have the right to consent to marrying each other? Or why don't human beings have the right to be held captive, killed, skinned, experimented on, slaughtered and cannibalized ....
YES. Yes it is. So perhaps you can actually discuss M*A*R*R*I*A*G*E instead of throwing out red herrings.
In a perfect would, certainly. However, that isn't going to happen.
Not really. Marriage and it's meaning is in the eye of the beholder ... as in the married couple. IF they do not value one another, it doesn't matter how much their friends and family approve (or disapprove) of their marriage.
Couples who stay in a volatile, loveless marriages not only harm themselves, but more importantly, harm their children. I know this for the simple fact that I was married to man whose parent's brought he and his brother up in one of *those* marriages. My ex-inlaws did a really number on their son.
Arthur Brain
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:sigh:
For instance?
glassjester
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Bestiality.
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