There is freedom to and freedom from. And to have true freedom to the good one must be truly free from the opposite.
toldailytopic: Liberal vs. Conservative. Where and why do you stand?
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Skavau
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Freedom from? Absolutely being free of being told what to do is absolutely vital and an important aspect of libertarianism in particular.
But when I have I encouraged persecution and encouraged people to be told they cannot be free from certain things? Are you going to insist that you have some hypothetical right to be free from knowing that homosexuals exist and are allowed to do so, or something?
Yeah, you edited it.Lighthouse said:
MrRadish
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Too late!
If one is free they have no need to be told what to do, for they have no desire to do anything of detriment.
What?
I could point out that it doesn't show that I edited it, as it usually does when one edits a post, but I did so I will not play that game. I will merely point out that I edited it before his post appeared so his "correction" was unnecessary.
Well put. Ask the junky, the homosexual, the pornographer, the abortionist (those that actually have a conscience) what freedom is: those with an ounce of decency will tell you that TRUE FREEDOM is freedom from their respective sin.
For what? I edited it before your post appeared. Apparently you are the one who is not quick enough.
MrRadish
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But I got there in time to spot and quote it, and now all of London knows of your typographical failure!
If they had brains they would know it from when Skavau quoted my post, which was before you stuck in your incessant nose. Like most of what you post, it was unnecessary.
Skavau
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That... has nothing to do with freedom. If you are free, then your actions are not arbitrarily prohibited or prohibited based on other people's beliefs.
You talk about 'Freedom from'. Are you going to insist that you have some hypothetical right to be free from knowing that homosexuals exist and are allowed to do so, or something?
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Arthur Brain
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Look LH. You made a typo and you got caught on it. The only reason folk are making a big deal of it is because you're such an insufferable bore about it in regards to everyone else.....
I've never come across OCD in regards to grammatical/spelling error but you would sure make a 'fine' case study.....
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MrRadish
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Yes, pointing out trivial errors of which both the author and the readership are already aware and about which they couldn't care less is irritating, isn't it?
Look LH. You made a typo and you got caught on it. The only reason folk are making a big deal of it is because you're such an insufferable bore about it in regards to everyone else.....
I've never come across OCD in regards to grammatical/spelling error but you would sure make a 'fine' case study.....
it may be that he is just over exposed
WizardofOz
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You wouldn't no over exposed......:dunce:
Jesus, the Christ and Buddha said we should choose the Middle Path.
Now before you puke out demands for scriptural references where Jesus said that, I would ask you to look at the Master's message as a whole and see that he espoused this belief in everything he did, spoke, and lived.
Please don't be mean to me....
Now before you puke out demands for scriptural references where Jesus said that, I would ask you to look at the Master's message as a whole and see that he espoused this belief in everything he did, spoke, and lived.
Please don't be mean to me....
WizardofOz
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How would you describe the "middle path"?
Puke out? Now you might want to reconsider that "right speech".
The eight fold path isn't compatible in foundation to the teachings of Christ, even though they are wonderfully compatible in any number of expressions, which is why some Buddhists have an easy transition to the Christian context...M. Scott Peck, for instance.oly: :e4e:Four O'Clock
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Economic: -3.00
Social: -0.51
Slightly left of center sitting virtually on the horizontal axis.
As I've said many times, God is neither liberal nor conservative
He is neither left nor right. In 'Mere Christianity' C.S. Lewis mentioned that he believed that God's Kingdom would have aspects of both 'left' and 'right' in It.
I believe that both the far-left and far-right hold certain views that could be considered the complete antithesis of Christianity.
My small $0.02
Social: -0.51
Slightly left of center sitting virtually on the horizontal axis.
As I've said many times, God is neither liberal nor conservative
He is neither left nor right. In 'Mere Christianity' C.S. Lewis mentioned that he believed that God's Kingdom would have aspects of both 'left' and 'right' in It.
I believe that both the far-left and far-right hold certain views that could be considered the complete antithesis of Christianity.
My small $0.02
Deuteronomy 5:32
"Therefore you shall be careful to do as the LORD your God has commanded you; you shall not turn aside to the right hand or to the left."
"Therefore you shall be careful to do as the LORD your God has commanded you; you shall not turn aside to the right hand or to the left."
A political party's platform is reflective of the majority of those delegates attending that parties national convention. Those delegates of course represent the attitudes of the people from their respective legislative districts.
Look at the following party platforms and see which ones would be more respected by God when it comes to His Word through Scripture:
2008 Democratic National Platform:
Choice
The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to choose a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right.
A More Perfect Union
We believe in the essential American ideal that we are not constrained by the circumstances of birth but can make of our lives what we will. Unfortunately, for too many, that ideal is not a reality. We have more work to do. Democrats will fight to end discrimination based on race, sex, ethnicity, national origin, language, religion,
sexual orientation, gender identity, age, and disability in every corner of our country, because that's the America we believe in.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=78283
Did God create man so that he could mutilate his body in order to change his "identity"? I think not.
2008 Libertarian Party Platform (also known as the "If it feels good do it" Party).
http://www.lp.org/platform
When you get through seeing that they want to legalize prostitution, recreational drug use, (and keep) abortion and homosexuality legal, look to see if there is any mention of God or a Creator in their party platform.
2008 Republican Party Platform
Maintaining The Sanctity and Dignity of Human Life
Faithful to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence, we assert the inherent dignity and sanctity of all human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution, and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to unborn children.
Preserving Traditional Marriage
Because our children's future is best preserved within the traditional understanding of marriage, we call for a constitutional amendment that fully protects marriage as a union of a man and a woman, so that judges cannot make other arrangements equivalent to it. In the absence of a national amendment, we support the right of the people of the various states to affirm traditional marriage through state initiatives.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=78545
And then there's The Constitution Party (their preamble says it all, and their platform reflects it)
The Constitution Party gratefully acknowledges the blessing of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as Creator, Preserver and Ruler of the Universe and of these United States. We hereby appeal to Him for mercy, aid, comfort, guidance and the protection of His Providence as we work to restore and preserve these United States.
http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php#Preamble
By the way 4 O'Clock, 2 cents doesn't buy much anymore.
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