Trump: Racist Firestorm

[genuineoriginal]

maybe we should figure out that no one black person speaks for the whole race any more than one white person speaks for all whites.

That would be the sensible thing to do, but I won't hold my breath waiting for the leftists to come to that realization.

When you ascribe problems or superior qualities to an entire race of people, that, my friend, is what defines racism.

That is what the leftist media does but Trump does not do.

There's a culture of out of wedlock births and drug use in many poor rural white people, but we don't assume that every white person or every poor white person does these things.

We do not have white people telling other white people that they are not "white" enough if they don't portray the poor white trash culture.

But, there is a problem you are not acknowledging.
There is a significant percent of black people that tell other black people that they are not "black" enough if they don't portray a specific black culture that glorifies criminal activities.
This internal stereotyping and peer pressure is holding too many black people back.

 

[The Barbarian]

We do not have white people telling other white people that they are not "white" enough if they don't portray the poor white trash culture.

Rather they say that they are committing "treason to your heritage."
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-duke-trump-219777

 

[genuineoriginal]

Rather they say that they are committing "treason to your heritage."
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-duke-trump-219777

Many black people listen to the black people that tell them they are not "black" enough if they don't portray a specific black culture that glorifies criminal activities.
It has become the defining behavior of their "race".

Nobody listens to your buddy David Duke.

 

[The Barbarian]

Many black people listen to the black people that tell them they are not "black" enough if they don't portray a specific black culture that glorifies criminal activities.

And many white people listen to..."your buddy" David Duke.

It has become the defining behavior of their "race".

I think it's a mistake, and a moral flaw to attribute that kind of thing to any race. David Duke has said that sort of thing, but... well, you know.

Yes, there are blacks who listen to radical black leaders, and there are whites who listen to David Duke. I suppose many believed him when he told them that not voting for Trump was treasonous to their heritage.

But you should know better than to suppose that either is the "defining behavior" of either race.

 

[ok doser]

Haven't you been banned again yet?

 

[jgarden]

Donald Trump is now being called a racist,well we know he really is not such a raciest, but he is against poor people, especially immigrants.

It is poor immigrant he dislikes. He believes that poor immigrants will lower the average wealth in the USA.

He does not like cultural differences.

Given that Trump's paternal grandfather and mother both immigrated to America as poor teenage immigrants only makes his "immigration" policy more hypocritical!

Trump has surrounded himself with wealthy, "white" males - to the exclusion of women and visible minorities!

Both groups voted overwhelmingly for the Democrats in the 2018 Interims which resulted in a swing of 40 seats in the House - despite this political "drubbing," Trump has done nothing that would persuade them to change their votes in 2020!

 

[genuineoriginal]

And many white people listen to..."your buddy" David Duke. David Duke has said that sort of thing, but... well, you know. there are whites who listen to David Duke.

Who??? :idunno:
Most white people have no idea who that is.
Try finding someone that white people actually listen to and like.

I think it's a mistake, and a moral flaw to attribute that kind of thing to any race.

I don't do that and you should probably stop doing it yourself.

Yes, there are blacks who listen to radical black leaders.

But you should know better than to suppose that either is the "defining behavior" of either race.

Are you aware that there is a difference between a race and a culture?

Culture and Race The term culture refers to ideas, behaviors, beliefs, and traditions shared by a large group of people and transmitted between generations. While cultural differences may also include racial differences, much diversity exists within one culture and within one race. Cultures vary widely in their rules for acceptable and expected behavior as well as in the ways they guide the development of the individual. Race is genetically determined and refers to one's ancestry. Ethnicity, which refers to people's common traits, background, and allegiances (developed because of culture or religion), is learned from family, friends, and experiences.

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[Right Divider]

Given that Trump's paternal grandfather and mother both immigrated to America as poor teenage immigrants only makes his "immigration" policy more hypocritical!

Did Trump's paternal grandfather and mother both come here legally or illegally?

What, exactly, is this hypocrisy? Spell it out clearly.

 

[genuineoriginal]

Given that Trump's paternal grandfather and mother both immigrated to America as poor teenage immigrants only makes his "immigration" policy more hypocritical!

Do you have any proof that Trump's paternal grandfather and mother were here illegally?

Trump has surrounded himself with wealthy, "white" males - to the exclusion of women and visible minorities!

Trump knows what it takes to succeed

Surrounding Yourself With The Right People Changes Everything Find People Who Are Smarter Than You When we surround ourselves with positive, successful people they consciously (and subconsciously) challenge us to be our best selves. Cultivate “Real Life” Relationships With People Who Have Already Accomplished Your Goals Highly successful people are generally willing to share what it really takes to make things happen. They have the ability to help you learn from the mistakes they’ve made along the way and the “tricks and tips” to help you reach your goals faster. Seek out leaders of your field and get some real face time with them.

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[genuineoriginal]

Thomas Sowell: "No Hard Evidence" That Trump Is A Racist Economist Thomas Sowell told 'FOX & Friends' Thursday that he has not seen "hard evidence" that President Trump is a racist. Sowell also commented on the fascination of socialism with young people. He said people "no longer look at the facts" yet are cheering on Bernie Sanders and his policies. "I've seen no hard evidence,” Sowell said the racism complaint lobbed at Trump. “And, unfortunately, we’re living in a time where no one expects hard evidence. You just repeat some familiar words and people will react pretty much the way Pavlov’s dog was conditioned to react to certain sounds.”

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Why would anyone believe Donald Trump is a racist?

 

[ok doser]

Trump has surrounded himself with wealthy, "white" males - to the exclusion of women and visible minorities!

Ben Carson's not a visible minority?

Chao, Devos and Haspel aren't women?

 

[The Barbarian]

Who??? :idunno:
Most white people have no idea who that is.

Actually, more white people know about David Duke than black people know about the black guys you were referring to.

Try finding someone that white people actually listen to and like.

Trump's 67 percent unfavorable rating is nearly as low as the 69 percent of Americans who said they had a negative view of Duke in a February 1992 poll.
https://www.politico.com/blogs/2016...016/04/poll-trump-david-duke-unpopular-221933

That leaves about 30 percent who know them and like them. A small percentage, but it translates to millions of Americans.

GU says:

Many black people listen to the black people that tell them they are not "black" enough if they don't portray a specific black culture that glorifies criminal activities. It has become the defining behavior of their "race".

Barbarian replies:
I think it's a mistake, and a moral flaw to attribute that kind of thing to any race.

I don't do that

If so, someone has gotten your log-in and is posting some pretty despicable stuff in your name.

GO remembers something Barbarian taught him:

Are you aware that there is a difference between a race and a culture?

Well done. You remembered.

 

[Ktoyou]

All humans ultimately have their ancestry in Africa, some more recently than others.

And no, evolution does not say any group of humans is closer to primate ancestors than any others.

Hey there you funny kid! I have much African ancestry and that is why I do best in 80 degree weather. The pigment of skin is just one sign; the true Africans hate the cold. This need for heat does not make me closer to a primate, even though the monkey cage perhaps would suit me temperature wise.

 

[The Barbarian]

Hey there you funny kid! I have much African ancestry and that is why I do best in 80 degree weather. The pigment of skin is just one sign; the true Africans hate the cold.

Adaptations for warmer climates mean less resistance to cold. In the hottest climate areas, Africans tend to be slim and tall, with longer limbs. This means more surface area to throw off heat. Inuit are just the opposite, tending to be short and stocky, to retain body heat. It's not just Africans. Indigenous Australians have the same adaptations, as do Some Native Americans.

This need for heat does not make me closer to a primate,

Humans are primates. Specifically, humans, chimpanzees, and bonobos are a genetic clade, with the other anthropoid apes being the outgroup.

even though the monkey cage perhaps would suit me temperature wise.

Depends on the monkey:

 

[genuineoriginal]

Actually, more white people know about David Duke than black people know about the black guys you were referring to.

The only white people who know about David Duke are the ones that you hang around with.

None of the white people I hang around with know who he is.

 

[ok doser]

None of my co-workers recognized Duke

 

[ok doser]

I have no respect for people like Colin Kaepernick, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Jeremiah Wright.

All of my co-workers recognized the first three, none recognized wright

 

[genuineoriginal]

None of my co-workers recognized Duke

People I ask think he was one of the characters on the Dukes of Hazard.

All of my co-workers recognized the first three, none recognized wright

Jeremiah Wright was in the news for a while as Obama's racist pastor.

 

[ok doser]

Oh, I remember him well

"God damn America!"

 

[ok doser]

I think it's hilarious that, in barbie's circles, Duke is a household name. :chuckle: