Who killed the Republican Party?

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Pundits in the media and even some on this forum are declaring the Republican Party to be DOA. If so, who is responsible and why?
 

Nick M

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The "establishment" put their own nails in their coffin. And they add reinforcement every time they say something stupid about Donald Trump. Will they ever learn?
 

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Many in the Republican Party stopped listening to the people who elected them and neglected their duties under the Constitution. They instead listened to special interest groups and donors. However, I don't think their failures are nearly as bad as the Democrats. Both parties need a shake-up and wake-up. We do have a Constitution should be one of the biggest reminders.
 

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All those Republicans who said one thing and did another, basically becoming Democrats and refusing to stop them on anything.
 

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Congressional Republicans who made obstructing anything with President Obama's name on it more important than actually DOING THEIR JOBS.
They taught their own constituents to hate and fear the federal government in its entirety, and now they are reaping what they have sown in a massively divided party and record-low approval ratings.

Which will likely lead to a Democratic majority in Congress regardless of the results of the presidential election.

Though I won't declare the GOP to be truly beyond hope until/unless Drumpf actually gets the nomination.
 

Nick M

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The Republicans who gave Obama everything, and I mean everything. And they did.
 

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The Repugnican party is destroying itself with its gross stupidity, incompetence, bigotry, hatred,lies, and utter failure to make this country a better place .
It has allowed governors senators and congressmen to be elected who belong in homes for the severely retarded rather than politics , such as Louie Gohmert, Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry,
Paul Broun, Steve King , and others .Not to mention the imbecile George W. Bush, worst President in US history .
The American public (at least some of it) has seen through GOP idiocy and will not stand for it any more . The Repugnican party is no longer conservative . It is backward, regressive, fascistic and theocratic .
The GOP has do-nothing but increase poverty, unemployment and hoplessness exponentially in America . It has failed utterly to create jobs, protect the environment , provide for those indeed ,
provide enough help for young people wanting to get a college, medical and graduate education ,
protect the rights of gay people , help poor children , help poor pregnant women provide for children , etc.
It has been bought by cynical, ruthless and greedy tycoons such as the monstrously evil Koch brothers and is totally corrupt . It has allowed a tiny handful of people in America to become obscenely wealthy while destroying the middle class and creating more poor people .
It has allowed evangelical Christian fanatics to get too much power in America . The GOP supply side, "trickle down" economic policies for the past 30 years or so have been disastrous for the world .
The GOP under Bush and Cheney nearly ruined the US economy and started the catastrophic Iraq war based on a pack of lies . It wastes billion every year on a bloated military budget while neglecting to allocate funds to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure .
Why would anyone vote for this abomination ?
 

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Pundits in the media and even some on this forum are declaring the Republican Party to be DOA. If so, who is responsible and why?
Karl Rove set all this perversity in motion when he put flyers on the windscreens of cars in fundamentalist church parking lots in Texas falsely claiming that George Bush's opponent, Ann Richards, was a lesbian; because he knew it would stir up their hatred and prejudice against her and that they would run to the polls to vote for "W" (even though they didn't actually like him much). And it worked! The tactic got Bush elected governor of Texas.

At that point the republican party learned from Karl's campaign tactic that there were lots of Christian religious zealots out there that were not politically active, but that could be stirred to action by praying on their ignorance and bigotry with the right lies - aimed at the republican's opponents. So they began using this tactic in every election, stirring up all those ignorant, angry, prejudiced zealots who were already in the habit of believing all sorts of things regardless of the historical facts, or the evidence of science.

They were the "perfect patsies" for the party of the rich, who couldn't win an election, otherwise. And so Karl Rove was hailed as the new genus of the republican party, and the tabloid media jumped in the bandwagon because it turned out that stirring up those angry zealots by telling them whatever lies they wanted to hear also kept them tuning into the TV and radio for more! And that was worth a lot of money to the people who operated those media outlets. After all, they get paid by selling advertisers access to all those eyes and ears.

Thus the unholy alliance between the republican party and the tabloid media began, and set themselves to stirring up as much ignorance and anger and prejudice as they could among the American populace. But it turned out there was a LOT of ignorance, anger, and prejudice out there! So much that once they got it all stirred up, it began to take on a life of it's own! Soon the zealots wanted more extremist candidates to vote for than the republican party could muster. And they wanted crazy laws passed that were so absurd that they began to make the republican party look like a pack of lunatics, and mad dogs. But by then the republicans were too scared to put the brakes on it all because they knew they still couldn't win elections without the zealot's votes.

And that's how they got to where they are, now. With the zealots voting in anger for a lunatic candidate because they are, in fact, lunatics, themselves. And the republican party is being trampled under the wheels of this whole lunatic parade that they've started, themselves, but have now lost control of.

So if you want a name; it's Karl Rove. He's the man responsible for installing the worst president in American history by practicing the worst kind of campaign tactics, and for stirring up all the American people's worst inclinations, and using them to exploit us and turn us all against each other, and ultimately against our own government.

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Here he is: Karl Rove. The 'genus' of the new "conservative" republican era.
 
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Nick M

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The Republican congress gave Obama everything he wanted. This is why they are losing their nomination.
 

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I like PureX's post...it touches on part of what I've been seeing in the GOP since the "Rove years".

Since the rise of the "moral majority" in the 70's and 80's, there have been two main camps in the republican party, the evangelical Christian culture warriors and the wealthy corporate interests. As PureX noted, Rove figured out how to rile up the culture warriors by having candidates engage in rhetoric about gays, abortion, prayer, public religious displays, and the like. The problem was, it was just that....rhetoric. When the candidates actually got into office they largely dropped all that culture war stuff and proceeded to cut taxes on the wealthy, cut regulations on businesses, and do lots of other things that benefited the corporate/wealthy arm of the GOP.

Play that out over a few decades and eventually the culture warrior voters start to realize that they've been played, which makes them angry and disillusioned at the party. I've been hearing the likes of Glen Beck, Hannity, Levin, and other right-wing personalities rail against the "republican establishment" for the last several years, with it seeming to reach a peak with Boehner's speakership.

So you have what we see today; a GOP that's splintered in two with one faction massively angry at the other. And now they have a candidate who taps into that anger and frustration and is also someone the GOP establishment can't stand, and...well....here we are.
 

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Came across this article today.

http://time.com/4253747/the-party-of-reagan-is-no-more/?iid=toc_031016

The Party of Reagan Is No More - Peter Wehner

Once known for common sense, the GOP gives way to Donald Trump

With the death on March 6 of a dignified First Lady–an influential cultural figure in her own right and the devoted keeper of her husband’s flame–both Ronald and Nancy Reagan have now passed into history. Increasingly, it appears, the same can be said of the party they took such care in shaping.

The most obvious evidence of this is the rise of Donald Trump, a man who is the antithesis of so much that Ronald Reagan stood for: intellectual depth and philosophical consistency, respect for ideas and elevated rhetoric, civility and personal grace. The fact that Trump is the favorite to win the Republican presidential nomination shows how far the GOP has drifted from the animating spirit of the most consequential and revered Republican since Abraham Lincoln.

Trump’s attempt at a hostile takeover is not a thunderclap on a cloudless day. It was years in the making. And when the mantle worn by Reagan might be settling on the likes of Trump, this end-of-an-era moment demands that we reflect on what has happened to our Republican Party.

For those of us open to such self-examination–to understanding what conditions gave rise to Trump and Trumpism–the explanation starts with certain harmful habits. These include employing apocalyptic rhetoric, like the assertion that America is on the verge of becoming Nazi Germany. Such reckless language is evidence of fevered and disordered minds and paves the way for Trump’s incendiary rhetoric.

But that’s hardly the whole of it. Republicans embraced the political knife-fighting tactics of Newt Gingrich in the 1990s and light-as-air political figures like Sarah Palin in the 2000s. Many Republicans–including self-proclaimed “constitutional conservatives”–began to speak of compromise as a synonym for capitulation, which is odd given that the Constitution itself was the result of a whole series of accommodations–and Reagan was a gifted compromiser. (In the debate over the Constitution, there was even a deal struck that came to be known as the Great Compromise, by which every state was to have two members in the U.S. Senate, offsetting proportional representation in the House.) Republicans became suspicious too of the “spirit of moderation” that James Madison argued is essential in understanding which measures are in the public good. What many modern Republicans are looking for is conflict, confrontation, the politics of the cage match.

At some point along the way, it became fashionable in the Republican Party–in some quarters, anyway–to replace reason with rage, to deny science when it was at odds with ideology and to cheer mindless stunts like shutting down the federal government rather than responsibly managing and relimiting it.

Voters are complicit in this too; many of them have come to confuse cruelty, vulgarity and bluster with strength and straight talk. And Republican lawmakers compounded a problem they had promised to solve, promoting rather than ending corporate welfare and crony capitalism.

There’s another explanation as well–political and intellectual sclerosis, by which I mean the failure to apply enduring principles to changing circumstances. This is something that Reagan did quite well. He developed a policy agenda–on taxes, monetary policy and regulations–that addressed the problems of his era, including high inflation, high interest rates and high unemployment. He understood the hardships facing ordinary Americans. He gave voice to them. And he offered concrete solutions to them. He adjusted to the realities of his time.

Ronald Reagan’s heirs have been decidedly less skilled at doing so.

One reason for this is that Reagan was so successful. The shadow he cast was so large that many of the Republicans who followed him could not escape it. For them, every year was 1981. Every problem could be solved by simplistically applying Reagan’s policy to it, even if the situations were not remotely comparable. (When Reagan took office, the inflation rate was in the double digits. Today it is less than 2%.) Republicans became uncreative and intellectually lazy. They placed themselves in an ideological straitjacket, trying to be more Reagan than Reagan (for example, promising they would not raise any taxes under any conditions for any amount of spending cuts). In the process, they became captive to the past.

As a result, too many Republicans lost touch with ordinary Americans. They had almost nothing to say about wage stagnation, the struggles of working-class Americans, the lack of social mobility, soaring tuition and health care costs, and how to extend health insurance to the uninsured. They were unable to explain, let alone address, huge structural changes caused by globalization, advances in technology and automation, which had harsh effects on low-skill workers. Blue collar Americans in particular felt unheard, ignored, abandoned.

Out of all this has emerged an opportunistic populist by the name of Trump.

It’s still too early to know what will come of all this. If Trump wins the nomination, he will go some distance toward undoing the influence of Reagan on the modern Republican Party–on policies like trade and immigration, in its commitment to limited government and cultural renewal, and in its concern for justice. Just as significant would be the dramatic change in tone, countenance and ethos. We are in the process of seeing the grace and joie de vivre of Reagan replaced by the crass and cruel insults, the obsessive Twitter attacks and the vindictiveness of Trump. The party of Lincoln and Reagan would be led by a man who embraces, at least in part, the ethics of Nietzsche.

Trump still has a ways to go before securing the nomination. (To date, roughly two-thirds of Republican primary voters are voting against him.) Yet even if he succeeds, many of us who are children of the Reagan revolution will not go gently into the good night. We will not vote for Trump under any circumstances, even if he is the nominee; what’s more, we will do everything in our power to reclaim the Republican Party from this demagogic and authoritarian figure.

This does not mean the mechanical imposition of Reagan-era policies, but it does mean being guided by conservative principles that seek to limit the size and reach of the state, that take into account human nature, defend human dignity and promote human flourishing. It means articulating an enduring vision of a limited government “sustaining the space for society to thrive in an age of social fragmentation and weakening institutions,” in the words of Yuval Levin, whose forthcoming book The Fractured Republic grapples with these issues. And just as important, it means recapturing the spirit of Reagan–making our Republican Party a welcoming party once again, inclusive and open, united in its commitment to American ideals, hopeful about the future and attractive to working-class Americans. The kind of party, in other words, that Ronald and Nancy Reagan would be proud of.

I thought this was a good article, though I don't agree with or think all of it's fair.

I think the points about rhetoric, lack of reason, and hatred of compromise are spot on. Though I think some of that is true for all of politics lately.
 

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Pundits in the media and even some on this forum are declaring the Republican Party to be DOA. If so, who is responsible and why?
the republican party is not dead
-it will survive this
-we will lose the white house, the senate, and the supreme court
-but we will hold the house and the states
-this is all about trump who has a deal with the clintons to get hillary elected
-it will work
-trump will not be the republican nominee
-but
-the republicans cannot win the white house because of what he has done
 

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-trump will not be the republican nominee
-but
-the republicans cannot win the white house because of what he has done

He didn't *do* anything all on his own. Your party gave him a helping hand when you all decided to support him.
 

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the republican party is not dead
-it will survive this
-we will lose the white house, the senate, and the supreme court
-but we will hold the house and the states
-this is all about trump who has a deal with the clintons to get hillary elected
-it will work
-trump will not be the republican nominee
-but
-the republicans cannot win the white house because of what he has done

Preparations are already underway for the 2020 GOP Convention.

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