drbrumley
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Sounds like a case to outlaw alcohol then. :up:
Why Drug Laws are wrong
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Sounds like a case to outlaw alcohol then. :up:
drbrumley
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C. S. Lewis remarked:
Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
way 2 go
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way 2 go
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drbrumley
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:up: Can be, yes. Is it, No!
from whence did the OT laws derive, if not from Christ?
shagster01
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Did you ever try a little pot back in the day?
Lexington'96
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I've never smoked pot in my life, but I have drank alcohol and smoked cigarettes, both of which are much more dangerous than weed. Should people who drink and smoke also be executed?
i wouldn't have if it hadn't been so ubiquitous
yes, as should those who push it
shagster01
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Do you believe that what you did was worthy of the death penalty? Would society be better off now if you had been executed back then? Would you better better off dead?
Caledvwlch
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I'm focusing on the highlighted part for now. What makes drugs evil? I'll even except a Biblical argument, just because I'm curious. Most of these intoxicating substances or the plants from which they were derived were, I presume, created by God, right? Or did poppies turn into an opiate on the day Adam and Eve ate of the fruit? Some drugs ease suffering. Is that evil? Or does God expect us to just bear the pain of compound fractures in quiet dignity? Alcohol was discovered by accident, must have seemed like magic, and was later discovered to be a bio-chemical process (once again, presumably created by God, I would expect).
Anyway, if drugs are "evil" then why do they exist? This isn't like wondering why evil exists at all and getting into discussions of sin and free will and all that, but the intrinsic properties of naturally occurring substances which, I presume, have no will at all, free or otherwise.
my hands exist because that's the way God made me
I can choose to use them to soothe a fevered brow, or hug a scared child
i can choose to use them to assist a student trying to better himself
or.....
i can use them to muder, rape, steal....
Caledvwlch
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That doesn't really answer the question. I realize that I should probably refrain from strangling people with pot plants. Why does the plant even have intoxicating effects to begin with, and what makes them evil?
why do my hands have the ability to do evil?
Caledvwlch
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Why is intoxication evil?
because it is degrading that which God hath made, making it less than He intended
Caledvwlch
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Or is it doing exactly what God intended with what God made (the intoxicant)?
And even in my Christian days I would have disagreed with this, so I was wondering if anybody had a good convincing biblical argument (let's just pretend for the sake of this thread that I believe there even is such a thing).
Lexington'96
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So, let me get this straight. You think that people should also be executed for using tobacco products or drinking alcohol? You do realize that more than half of Americans use some type of drug, whether it be alcohol, pot, etc.
journey
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Christians should not have to be told that it's morally wrong to get high. Here's a sample:
1 Peter 5:8 KJV Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
Philippians 4:4-5 KJV Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice. 5 Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.
1 Peter 5:8 KJV Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
Philippians 4:4-5 KJV Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice. 5 Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.