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  1. Derf

    Responses to comments on other sites

    I quoted it specifically because it applied to the conversation. Did you miss the point I made about it? Yes, I know that's how you see those, but my point was that none of the disciples of Christmas ever told anyone in the gospels or epistles that Jesus raised Himself from the dead. So why is...
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    A little comedy break....

    It looks like it was removed.
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    Responses to comments on other sites

    John didn't say, "Jesus raised Himself from the dead." What he did was quote Jesus and explain it was about His body as opposed to the brick and mortar temple. John had a chance to say it, but he didn't. He said this (John's commentary in blue): John 2:19-22 KJV — Jesus answered and said unto...
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    The disappearing "pope"

    And the place where Peter reappears is when he has to be chastised by Paul for hypocrisy.
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    Responses to comments on other sites

    I know, but afterward, not one of the new testament writers ever said He raised himself from the dead. If they never did, should it be how we declare the gospel?
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    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    Not true. We regularly quote scripture that give explanation for the ideas that God changes His mind, in which case, the future wasn't settled before He changed His mind each time. I don't necessarily disagree that Open Theism is free will theism. But that isn't the same as saying that free...
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    The evidence in the bible (testimony from eyewitnesses) says that God raised Jesus from the dead. The only evidence that Jesus raised Himself from the dead is a statement or two from Himself that it would happen, which have to be interpreted to reach the conclusion Jesus raised Himself from the...
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    Question About Open Theism

    I agree, mostly. But if @Idolater thinks it was already fulfilled, I'm curious what event/events meet the criteria in or around 70ad.
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    The Joys of Catholicism

    I heard a sermon recently claiming that there are multiple churches, but not a single Church, with a church being a local assembly. I'm not sure I'm on board with it in all instances, but it allows for some clarity. Are they? Then how can a single lampstand be removed? Does another take its...
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    Question About Open Theism

    Do you have an event to propose that fulfills the feast of trumpets? Or are you referring to the 7 trumpets in Revelation? If the latter, then do you have 7 events to propose?
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    Which Mystery Would You Pick?

    Sometimes works of art provide concepts that aren't healthy to be expressed, too.
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    Which Mystery Would You Pick?

    Here's how I see it. If your theology says that everything you will ever think and do is known before you exist, then you are really the one thinking and doing. Both options are therefore deterministic. The difference, then, is that White believes God is the determiner, while Wiersbe, though...
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    Which Mystery Would You Pick?

    The problem is that both believe in determinism, but one is more consistent than the other. James White's view is more internally consistent, because he doesn't allow for man's free will in a universe of God's absolute sovereignty. If I were to describe it to you without naming any characters...
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    Which Mystery Would You Pick?

    Both mysteries dissolve with an openness construct that denies God knows the future exhaustively. Why should we choose one bad mystery over another? It's like picking your favorite Scooby Doo episode.
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    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    I think Lon's motives are fairly obvious--he is clinging to a theological system that he can't logically defend any more, so he launches into stories that talk about how He feels, vs how God feels, vs how we ought to feel. That's really the only avenue left when the scriptures don't support your...
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    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    No. And of course you can erect a straw man and knock it down. But you should attempt to understand better when told your straw is showing. If you don't care about truth in theology, why are you arguing about it. Isn't bad Open Theism just as palatable as good Settled View Theism when you emote...
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    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    Yes. This is the whole crux of the disagreement. If God only knows what you are going to choose ten minutes before you choose it, you are an open theist.
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    Question About Open Theism

    The prophecy about Peter's death could easily have been fulfilled if Peter had later denied the Lord again finally. I'm not sure why it is so interesting a prophecy.
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    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    It does, but you can't see it through your biases. I haven't seen any text where I have to be inconsistent. I've addressed several before. Yes, see below. Agreed If He was at one time "without us", then He changed, correct? From a God who had no people to a God who has a people. More...
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    Is Faith Without Works Dead?

    Will try soon. Ping me if you don't see it within a couple days.
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