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  1. Clete

    Viruses are manufactured

    NO! That was not my argument AT ALL!!! Perhaps you're more stupid than you pretend. Read a book, Avajs. I mean seriously! This is down right stupidity! You don't have the brains for a whole book. Read this... The Foundations of Modern Society in Technology and Scientific Progress The...
  2. Clete

    Viruses are manufactured

    But made no mention of the basis upon which the rejection was made except for the red herring of your flogging Christianity for all the crimes of humanity. Saying it doesn't make it so, Avjs. I DO NOT base it on any declaration of the bible. I did not make any attempt whatsoever to make a...
  3. Clete

    Viruses are manufactured

    That's silliness and biased nonsense. Christianity is the single greatest thing that has ever happened to this world and it almost single-handedly responsible for practically everything that makes your comfortable life possible, not to mention the fact that you're likely to live at all past the...
  4. Clete

    Viruses are manufactured

    @Avajs, I feel compelled to thank you. I have been here doing this for more than two decades and in all that time, you are the first, the very first atheist who has stuck around long enough to allow me to make that full argument. They ALWAYS vanish! They show up with all the bravado and sass...
  5. Clete

    Viruses are manufactured

    You, along with all atheists, declare that faith is out of bounds; that all truth must be established by reason, yet you cannot establish that claim without assuming the validity of the very logic you seek to establish. That's an act of circularity called begging the question. If, on the other...
  6. Clete

    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    I think its literally funny, as in laughably idiotic, that Lon, who has been here for years discussing this topic with any number of open theists in countless different separate discussions from hundreds of different directions and still he refuses to understand that open theism isn't about free...
  7. Clete

    Viruses are manufactured

    (y) No. The statement "All truth claims must be established by means of logic and reason." is itself a truth claim. How would you establish that claim?
  8. Clete

    An Open Theism Epistle

    So, no one has anything to say in response to that?!! I was playing around with GPT and took an old essay I wrote years ago and, after discussing it with GPT for a while I had GPT rewrite it as if it were an apostle writing an epistle to a fellow believer. I completely loved the result! I...
  9. Clete

    Question About Open Theism

    There wasn't and your hideous doctrine on this issue is not biblical at all and down right blasphemous. There are Calvinists who would recoil at the implications of your doctrine. Lucifer was still an Arch Angel at the time and would have had every right to be in the Garden. His rebellion began...
  10. Clete

    Viruses are manufactured

    It is usually not their logic that is flawed per se, it is their presuppositions.
  11. Clete

    Viruses are manufactured

    Not in the way you mean it. I'll explain shortly. Just to be clear before moving on, was this your endorsement of the idea that all truth claims must be established by means of logic and reason? It's not a trick question or anything. That is what atheists typically believe. I just don't want to...
  12. Clete

    Question About Open Theism

    Where is the BC AD calendar system mentioned in the Bible? And I trust all sorts of sources outside the bible for all kinds of different things. Who has ever suggested anything similar to "only people like Josephus"? NO ONE! What theological point did I make based on Josephus as a primary...
  13. Clete

    Primary & Secondary Causes

    I couldn't bring myself to make a new account. They're just so hypocritical. I can't take it.
  14. Clete

    Question About Open Theism

    That math does not work! The guy who came up with our current callender started it in the wrong place. First of all, he had no year zero and so that automatically puts it off by one year. Also, the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus recorded that Herod died shortly after a lunar eclipse and...
  15. Clete

    Primary & Secondary Causes

    Excellent point! If you respond in kind, they'll ban you.
  16. Clete

    Primary & Secondary Causes

    False! "I admit that in this miserable condition wherein men are now bound, all of Adam's children have fallen by God's will... ...Nor ought it to seem absurd when I say, that God not only foresaw the fall of the first man, and in him the ruin of his posterity; but also at his own pleasure...
  17. Clete

    An Open Theism Epistle

    To my beloved brother in the faith, grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. I write to you concerning the knowledge of God, for I perceive that many have been led to think of Him in a way that does not befit His greatness. They say that God’s wisdom consists in His...
  18. Clete

    Question About Open Theism

    If you mean foreknowledge in the sense of infallible foreknowledge then the answer is yes, it does mean that the future is fixed. Whether the foreknowledge is the cause of it being fixed is another question, but if God infallibly knows what you will do tomorrow then when you do it, you do not do...
  19. Clete

    Primary & Secondary Causes

    Perfect reasoning except that I wouldn't have used the term "extreme". You don't have to be an "extreme Calvinist" to believe this. This is, in fact, what regular old, garden variety, Calvinism teaches. Any one who calls themselves a Calvinist and does not believe this, is ignorant of what...
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    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    Yes, I'm not disputing that he was made a little lower than the angels but rather what is meant by that. Lower how? or Lower in what way? That is the question we don't really know the answer to.
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