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Again, I'm not going to go down your rabbit hole. The membership of the APA numbers in the tens of thousands, any group that large you are going to be able to cherry pick a few undesirables. If you are more than welcome to take up the issue with their membership committee.

I'm not going to mess with your usual attempts to derail the discussion to your favorite masturbation topic. The first part of the Hippocratic Oath is "Do No Harm". If a particular treatment is more likely to harm a patient than to help them and there are other ways to treat the patient then...

Which is all well and good but if the success of that one person comes at the cost of harming two or more people, which is what the professionals believe then it is NOT worth it. Particularly when there are alternative treatments that can obtain similar results without that harm. Which is...

BINGO!!! Hit the problem on the head. Remember when I was talking about doing the hard work to prove these therapies, one of the first items on the list is establishing a single standard of success, one that is verifiable by others. Most of the third parties trying to verify these results are...

Perhaps but that is not the point.

The minority of those treated that succeed.

I agree and it has happened, as more people got to know LGBT folks and found out that they are not all the demons that you and others make them out to be. The key word being legitimate, the state and the medical community have always had the right to regulate safe and unsafe practices in the...

Well if this thread is your solution you should probably clean it up a bit. Homosexual attraction was never a crime, it was specific acts that were criminalized and then enforcement of those laws was limited to homosexuals. Homosexuality was considered a mental illness. So really to be...

You are dodging again. What specific laws are not being enforced and what specifically do we need to do to solve the problems that you are complaining about? Petitioning a gay web site would not be effective any more than ranting for years on a little read Christian political forum is. When I...

If you know laws that are being broken, the police. I'm pretty sure they are reading children's books and not pornography but if you feel the charge applies, by all means, report it to the police. I don't think it will go very far as I'm sure the libraries did a legal review before starting...

The first is difficult under the first amendment, such laws have to be very narrowly tailored and thus difficult to apply to other situations. The answer is in the second. And which unpopular minority group do we slaughter after that? The question is addressed to the specific situation of the...

Have you brought this to the attention of the relevant authorities? To the best of my knowledge, dressing up in costume to do a children's story hour is not illegal in any state. Perhaps you should be promoting legislation? What exactly do you think should be done about it? I'm currently...

Really? What a terrible law, they should repeal it as soon as possible.

No, I've never been a resident of the state.

You are continuing to try to avoid the original question but in doing so answered it. So you admit that your original answer is inaccurate. Saying that pedophilia is a sexual orientation will not make it legal because consent is not possible under current law and there is no indication that...

So an organization that you complain about being politically motivated did something you want them to do due to political motivation. Which is irrelevant to the question. It is not illegal for young people to dress up in costumes and role play. Nor has any laws related to consent been changed...

You started this particular line of discussion by claiming that pedophilia is being removed from the DSM but the story you posted in support says that they are not doing so. You then started in that they want to make it a sexual orientation and again the story you posted in support says they are...

Nonsense, removing pedophilia from the DSM would actually make it easier to prosecute criminally not harder as it would eliminate an avenue of defense. If the man in the picture had sexual relations with the child pictured, he would go to jail now and if pedophilia were removed from the DSM, he...

Actually, I don't hold that it is fixed and immutable but I do believe it is part of the base personality and as such extremely hard and dangerous to try and change. Even if correct this doesn't change anything. Your example doesn't counter my point, it illustrates it. All of those things...

Nothing in your quote or example shows that there was an effort to remove pedophilia from the DSM. Fine tuning the definition is not doing what you claimed.