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    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    I would agree that the breakdown of marriage in modern society is a major factor in the increase of STDs. However, I would lay that more at the feet of heterosexuals who were devaluing and undermining the importance of marriage long before same-sex marriage became an issue. The anti-LGBT folks...
  2. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    They already have it, of course, having the right to organize and express your message and having society accept it is two different things. I would direct you to your favorite group and their success at changing the age of consent laws. Not entirely but if it is a committed monogamous...
  3. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    Now just demonstrate anywhere in history that has actually worked. To my knowledge, there is no recorded major society that did not have homosexuals or STD's. It is a major part of the heterosexual culture as well. I don't think you will find a major culture in history that didn't have it...
  4. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    The right for a group to associate, organize and petition the government for change is one of the greatest strengths of the US system. Cute but all I am doing is pointing out that these groups have legal and social issues that need to be addressed if society is to allow such marriages. They...
  5. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    So is abstaining from all sex for everyone but I doubt you will find that solution will work very well. I am all for encouraging in couples to practice prevention but not so foolish to think that abstinence alone will work. Yes, they do, rather like Christians feeling more comfortable on a...
  6. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    I never claimed to be a "sexual anarchist". Equal treatment under the law is not equal rights for all behaviors. When the courts talk about being equally situated, they are saying that the point of contention in the legal argument is the only difference between the groups in question who are...
  7. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    Yes treating the disease is usually a more effective approach. And Mesopotamian laws, pre-Christian Greek laws, pre-Christian Roman laws, pre-Christian British law, etc. Even some Native American laws. There are commonalities in most legal systems, such as murder being against the law. If...
  8. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    First off same-sex marriage was and is on a different footing as far as equal treatment under the law because it was subjected to an inequality. That is there were equally situated relationships that were being allowed to marry under the law while being denied to same-sex couples. The other...
  9. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    Yet none of that including your precious CDC charts addressed my point, that the pandemic developed and reached its peak BEFORE it was legal. Your solution has already been tried and failed. Oh, I see yes the US is a Christian nation if you are going by the definition that the largest...
  10. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    So again your answer is yes. And I agree with much of that compelling interest as long as it is applied equally. Which means traditional and same-sex families equally. It is called the right of association, it is in the Constitution, any group has a right to organize to petition the...
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    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    We already did that and the AIDS pandemic grew from an unknown threat to its peak during that timeframe, all prior to Lawrence. Yet, it was written by Washington and Adams, read aloud on the Senate floor before the vote, debated before the vote and passed unanimously by the Senate. Yes, there...
  12. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    I've been curious where you were going with this, on one paw you are advocating the return of the government to the privacy of the bedroom and on the other putting forward reasons why the government should not be in the bedroom. I'm more than willing to concede the latter if you wish. I would...
  13. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    Tell that to the Women's Christian Temperance Union. Odd that somehow the Bible got left out of the foundational document of US law. That after being read aloud on the Senate floor, the Senate voted unanimously in 1796 to affirm and encode in US law the statement "The government of the United...
  14. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    So your answer to the original question is yes, you are repeating yourself. It contributed to it yes, along with the pre-Christian British Common Law, Roman Law, and several other legal traditions.
  15. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    And the one thing you will find in common in the tobacco and alcohol issues is, it is not illegal to use them, the restrictions seek to reduce unhealthy use but we found out that prohibition doesn't work and tends to make the situation worse. There is no indication that making homosexuality...
  16. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    I will take this as the answer to the original question since you seem to think that ancient Hebrew law is the US Code. You decided to turn the thread into a complete trainwreck to avoid addressing a valid point.
  17. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    I would agree but applying a therapy that will very likely increase that risk particularly when there are safer alternatives available is not a helpful approach.
  18. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    More correctly, the CDC which is a sub-component of the Executive Branch, cannot dictate to the Judicial Branch how it should rule, it can only provide information. I never claimed they were not enforced, I claimed they were not enforced equally in violation of the Equal Protection Clause and...
  19. K

    Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

    Unfortunately for your argument, your opinion of CDC statements or those statements themselves does not overrule SCOTUS rulings. Do feel free to research it, it makes no difference to my point concerning equal treatment, indeed it bolsters it if they are no such cases. I would mostly agree...
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