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That's not completely true. It's a faith based on following the priests of scientism--"follow the science" (i.e., "believe what we tell you to believe").

Sorry unrelated. Please try again in another thread.

Kind of like a machine, eh?

You just lowered my respect for you about 25% with that fallacy.

If man is tripartite, then without the three parts, you don't have a man. Thus, when man dies, there's no need to explain what happens to other parts--there are no other parts left. I'm sure it comforts you to repeat the mantra, but there are no passages that say either of those things...

Then you have to wonder why God would threaten death for eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but never carry it out. But Jesus talked about it.

I just quoted the scripture that applies. It said they would die. This is in contrast to what God did when He gave them life. If Adam started as dust, and God made him alive, then what would he be when he dies? Wouldn't he return to what he was before? Dust? Then their punishment was complete...

The calculations we can make regarding distance light has traveled assumes that the conditions we think we observe today (using that same light) have stayed the same since the light was emitted. We have other evidence—eyewitness accounts—that contradict the assumptions.

We, yes, but Satan? No. We never hear about a spiritual being dying. Maybe it can happen, but the Bible doesn’t talk about it. If we assume from that lack of evidence (always a risk) that Satan can’t die, then he doesn’t get eternal life like we do, who haven’t had it since Adam’s fall until Christ.

But does the Bible ever teach that death is the cessation of existence? Even one time?

Yes. Disobedience to God. I’m pretty sure this is consistent with answer I already gave. Edit: and perhaps “could” should replace “would” in your question. The first words the Bible tells us God spoke to Adam allow for man not to live forever.

I don’t understand this comment, ffree. Can you explain?

Good! We’re closing in on some agreement. Why would you need the “apart from God” caveat? Surely it is God we are talking about: Genesis 2:16-17 (NKJV) 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 “but of the tree of the knowledge of good...

That’s a good story, but you have no way to prove. It’s a conjecture.

Except for the one that lasted forty years: Hebrews 3:8-9 (NKJV) 8 Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, In the day of trial in the wilderness, 9 Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me, And saw My works forty years. Notice it uses the same form “in the day”

Well, they died “in the day” they ate of the tree.

This is a valuable conversation. Do the eternally damned have to live forever in order to be punished forever? I tend to think they do, but it’s not the type of life Christ came to give us, the more abundant kind. But I think I can explain some of the difference, or at least why there is a...

Do you mean any form man takes, including death?

I agree, but why not Moses, too? And the souls under the altar who are told to go back to sleep (“rest a little while longer”)?

Well, it was in the same sentence.