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Acts 19:4-5 says..."Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus." So he does indeed...

As I don't believe salvation will be assured till we hear our names are in the book of life on the day of judgment, I will depend on Him until my last moment on earth without regard for my final determination.

Agreed, as one is a characteristic or attribute of God and the other is an action or condition of its owner. I'ld say...because of God's grace we have faith. I don't believe He "gives" it to some and not to others. I disagree, as it is a reaction to things out side of us. Don't you think the...

If I refuse to steal, so I will be found faithful at my judgement on the last day, my refusal to disobey God becomes my downfall...in the doctrine of some.

Achieved isn't the right word, as it is a gift. A promised result of obedience to God. It is the gift of God, by faith that His other gifts are real. Repentance from sin makes a man an ex-sinner. Baptism using water, for the remission of past sins sanctifies a man. Only a clean vessel will be...

I find it unfathomable that obedience to God is not permissible.

I'ld rather think they "arrive" simultaneously. Hairs-width separation indeed.

And there is the difference between what your doctrine can accomplish and what the doctrine which is according to Godliness can do. My flesh(ly mind) is dead and buried, with Christ. I thank God for freeing me of sinning.

Careful there...some consider "depending" as a work for salvation.

Do you consider yourself forced to be a Christian? That is the doctrine you espouse. God gave you faith to believe what nobody else believes. I chose to believe of my own volition. That happened because, by the grace of God, I heard a message of love. BTW, choosing is a work, in your doctrine...

I have been free of the Law of Moses for nearly fourteen years. As it is written..."Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for...

If you would like to discuss dispensations, I'm in the dispensation of perfection, by the suffering and death of Jesus Christ.

Yes, it does. It is written... Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Romans 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; Galatians 2:16...

You will need to back that up with scriptures. Paul mentioned only the works of the Law not being necessary for salvation. Circumcision and dietary laws come to mind. I have been baptized into what Jesus did on the cross. I died there with Christ, was buried with Him, and was raised with Him to...

Do you realize that accepting Jesus as the Son of God is something we must do? That believing a doctrine is something we must do? Isn't a doctrine where you musn't do anything something you feel we must do? I wish all men would do that receiving. How is that death accomplished? Rom 6:3-6 tells...

Do turning from sin, getting baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, and remaining faithful unto death sound "onerous"? Faith will lead one to do the afore mentioned things. I'm just glad we no longer have to do the "works of the Law" that Paul preached against.

I think not, and I am walking with the Proof in me.

Rom 6 and Col 2 beg to differ. A revelation you seem to transfigure into a religion that doesn't require the washing of regeneration. Are not all believers Jews at heart? They were not Jews, and they were preached baptism by man's hand. Not always. But we were told there would be...

You won't find that idea in scripture. Especially after the council in Jerusalem. They never said anything about believing, hearing, having faith, (water) baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, reception of the Holy Ghost, or enduring faithfully till the end as being...

So many things are necessary for salvation that the idea of faith alone is ludicrous.