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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    Why did he frequently write of water baptism then? Why did he include his own baptism in Acts 22:16? The eunuch was an Ethiopian. Lydia, Cornelius, and the jailer of Thyatira, were not Israelites either. I understand the written word. What you call "figures of speech" are my reality in Christ...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    The gift, in my understanding is the grace. How can faith be a gift if we need it to be saved? What is the point of believing if the belief is forced on us? I agree. But faith is a conclusion we draw from our experiences with or about God. I agree. I agree. More than faith is necessary for...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    That is indeed the one God does. I'ld hate to think Peter was wrong in Acts 2:38...or Ananias in Acts 22:16. it also reminds me of 1 Cor 16:11..."And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    It was a response to some who imply that God gives a gift, (salvation), and that is the end of our participation in our own Godly walk in Christ. They fashion a gift with no reception of or maintaining of it. I will add, that if God gives us salvation without any kind of change on our part...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    I'm sorry you feel that way, as it is the only way to undergo the circumcision done without hands (Col 2:12-13), and the only way to kill the old man and be raised with Christ to walk in newness of life. (Rom 6:3-7) Were I not baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins...
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    Limited atonement !

    I agree, but not the "works" of the Law that Paul warned against. You are misapplying a principal concerning circumcision and dietary law to everything we must do for salvation. Every gift must have a receiver of the gift. One gives and another receives.
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    Limited atonement !

    You are correct. Man must turn from hurting God and neighbor in order to be saved. That is what faith enables. Now if you don't have faith, you will continue to grieve both. No salvation in that choice.
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    Maybe your explanation wasn't sufficient.? Will people who don't want to be saved find their names in the book of life on the last day? Satan believes in Jesus Christ and in all that Jesus did, so is he saved? Or is there more the devil must do?
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    Not really changed. I'm just trying to apply some sense to that doctrine. The one God does requires no water, but the one men do, in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, does require water. As the old me was crucified with Christ at my "immersion" into His death and burial...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    As the "work" has been finished, anything we actually do is not a "work for salvation". So baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins and our sanctification and justification, or repentance from sin are not outlawed. And living without sin is a byproduct of the finished...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    You are correct. Usually when I see a thread concerning "works" it is an attempt by some to establish that rejection of sin is a no-no. Which just leads to more sin, and sinners will not find their names in the book of life on the last day. If those who faster the "salvation without works"...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    What do you consider a "work" for salvation? This is what Paul considered a "work" for salvation...circumcision, dietary law, feast keeping, tithing, and any other precept of the Mosaic Law. Unfortunately, some have included repentance from sin, baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    You are correct. The works of Rom 4 were the works of the Law. The works of James 2 are the product of our conversion.
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    When one goes down the "credit" slide, all "credit" goes to God. But can I be saved if I don't want to be saved? Have we no say in our redemption or salvation?
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    The works of the Law...No.
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    You may have missed the part of my post where I mentioned that the only works Paul wrote against were the works of the Law. It is written..."Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;" (Rom 9:32)...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    Works in tandem with the grace of God. Like, for instance, 1 Cor 10:13..."There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    Our salvation is totally dependent on our obedience to God. Peter wrote..."For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?" (1 Peter 4:17) Paul wrote..."Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud...
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    No blood needed

    Thank God we can "be in Him" all the time now in the NT.
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    No blood needed

    All three. It is written in Heb 7:19..."For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God." Jesus said..."Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matt 5:48) God said in Lev 20:7..."Sanctify...
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