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Calvinism, Catholicism are NOT of the Faith
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republicanchick
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how presumptuous
people who presume all the time are lacking in integrity
(you'd think that would go w/o saying... However.. these days)
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What does it means to you that God has reconciled the world unto himself by Jesus Christ? 2 Corinthians 5:19.
Nanja
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The only world Christ reconciled were His Elect Eph. 1:7; His Sheep He gave His Life for John 10:11,15.
Why? Because their sins were never imputed to them, but were imputed to Christ their Surety Heb. 7:22 instead Rom. 8:33.
But the rest of humanity are still in their sins; they are those who believe not John 3:36.
God has not been propitiated for their sins. The same have been predestined to Hell Jude 1:4.
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You have to add words to the Bible to make your doctrine work.
The Bible plainly says that God has reconciled the world unto himself by Jesus Christ, sinners and all. Nothing about the elect.
beloved57
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Since when did you believe the Gospel or the Bible?
The Bible also says that you believe a false Gospel.
The true Gospel justifies the ungodly Romans 4:5 and reconciles the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.
Amen
beloved57
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Since when did you believe and understand those verses?
Another, Amen.
Please interpret Romans 4:5 and 2 Corinthians 5:19, without adding words to the scripture.
beloved57
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See my threads, and you don't believe those verses of scripture! You don't believe the Gospel, Tulip is the Gospel!
As usual you can't answer the question.
beloved57
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No need to answer it, you made it up,I never heard of it!
You can't defend the doctrine of a limited atonement because there is no scripture that supports it.
beloved57
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You can't defend unlimited atonement, because there is no verse that teaches that lie!
There are many scriptures that teach an unlimited atonement. You just don't read them because you don't believe them, 1 John 2:2.
beloved57
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That scripture teaches limited atonement, because some men are under Gods Wrath John 3:36 !
Read what the scripture says... John 3:36.
"He that believes on the Son has everlasting life"
This is the same as John 3:16.
"And he that does not believe shall not see life"
Nothing about anyone being predestinated. Its about believing.
"But the wrath of God abides on him"
Those that do not believe on Jesus the wrath of God abides on them. They are under God's wrath because they do not believe. They have not been predestinated to hell by God. They are going to hell because they do not belive.