Calvinism, Catholicism are NOT of the Faith

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Robert Pate

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CALVINISM

The Bible does not support either one of these false religions.

There are over 75 scriptures that tell us that Jesus is the savior of the whole world, all men, everyone. Calvinist reject everyone of them.

There is not one scripture in the whole Bible that says anyone has been predestinated to heaven or to hell.

The word "predestinate" only appears in the Bible 4 times, yet none of the words are related to someone being predestinated to heaven or to hell.

There are so many scriptures that refute the doctrine of a limited atonement that when it comes to defending this doctrine the Calvinist goes deaf, dumb and blind.

CATHOLICISM

There is nothing in the Bible about a Catholic church, nor is there anything in the Bible that resembles a Catholic church. The closest thing in the New Testament that resembles Catholisim is Pharisaism. The priest and the pope dress like Pharisees.

There is nothing in the New Testament about Peter going to Rome, nor is there anything in the Bible about a Catholic church in Rome. John wrote to the 7 seven churches that were in Asia, Revelation 1:14, nothing was said about a church in Rome.

Paul's letter to the Romans was not directed to a church in Rome. It was directed to the believers in Rome. Catholicsm is not according to the writings of Paul. Paul spoke against justification by works, Galatians 3:10. Catholics believe that works are a part of their justification (Council of Trent, Canon #9).

When one looks at all of these different aspects of Calvinism and Catholicism one can only arrive at the conclusion that neither one of these religions are of the faith that was delivered to us by the apostles, Romans 6:17.
 
Cedarbay

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Might be time for many of us to take a break from theological studies, and read this old classic by Dale Carnegie...

PRINCIPLES FROM “HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE.” (by Dale Carnegie *1888-1955* founder of the Carnegie Course)

BECOME A FRIENDLIER PERSON

1. Don't criticize, condemn or complain. 2. Give honest, sincere appreciation. 3. Arouse in the other person an eager want. 4. Become genuinely interested in other people. 5. Smile. 6. Remember that a person's name is to that person the most important sound in any language. 7. Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves. 8. Talk in terms of the other person's interest. 9. Make the other person feel important - and do so sincerely. 10 The only way to get the best of an argument is to avoid it.

WIN PEOPLE TO YOUR WAY OF THINKING

11. Show respect for the other person's opinions. Never say, "You're wrong." 12. If you are wrong, admit it quickly and emphatically. 13. Begin in a friendly way. 14. Get the other person saying, "Yes, yes" immediately. 15. Let the other person do a great deal of the talking. 16. Let the other person feel that the idea is his or hers. 17. Try honestly to see things from the other person's point of view. 18. Be sympathetic with the other person's ideas and desires. 19. Appeal to the nobler motives. 20. Dramatize your ideas.

BE A LEADER

21. Throw down a challenge. 22. Begin with praise and honest appreciation. 23. Call attention to people's mistakes indirectly. 24. Talk about your own mistakes before criticizing the other person. 25. Ask questions instead of giving direct orders. 26. Let the other person save face. 27. Praise the slightest and every improvement. Be "lavish in your praise." 28. Give the other person a fine reputation to live up to. 29. Use encouragement. Make the fault seem easy to correct. 30. Make the other person happy about doing the thing you suggest.
 
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beloved57

beloved57

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Robert Pate said:
CALVINISM

The Bible does not support either one of these false religions.

There are over 75 scriptures that tell us that Jesus is the savior of the whole world, all men, everyone. Calvinist reject everyone of them.

There is not one scripture in the whole Bible that says anyone has been predestinated to heaven or to hell.

The word "predestinate" only appears in the Bible 4 times, yet none of the words are related to someone being predestinated to heaven or to hell.

There are so many scriptures that refute the doctrine of a limited atonement that when it comes to defending this doctrine the Calvinist goes deaf, dumb and blind.

CATHOLICISM

There is nothing in the Bible about a Catholic church, nor is there anything in the Bible that resembles a Catholic church. The closest thing in the New Testament that resembles Catholisim is Pharisaism. The priest and the pope dress like Pharisees.

There is nothing in the New Testament about Peter going to Rome, nor is there anything in the Bible about a Catholic church in Rome. John wrote to the 7 seven churches that were in Asia, Revelation 1:14, nothing was said about a church in Rome.

Paul's letter to the Romans was not directed to a church in Rome. It was directed to the believers in Rome. Catholicsm is not according to the writings of Paul. Paul spoke against justification by works, Galatians 3:10. Catholics believe that works are a part of their justification (Council of Trent, Canon #9).

When one looks at all of these different aspects of Calvinism and Catholicism one can only arrive at the conclusion that neither one of these religions are of the faith that was delivered to us by the apostles, Romans 6:17.
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Calvinism is the Gospel, you dont believe that, you may as well throw your bible in the garbage for its doing you no good !
 
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Cedarbay said:
Might be time for many of us to take a break from theological studies, and read this old classic by Dale Carnegie...

PRINCIPLES FROM “HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE.” (by Dale Carnegie *1888-1955* founder of the Carnegie Course)

BECOME A FRIENDLIER PERSON

1. Don't criticize, condemn or complain. 2. Give honest, sincere appreciation. 3. Arouse in the other person an eager want. 4. Become genuinely interested in other people. 5. Smile. 6. Remember that a person's name is to that person the most important sound in any language. 7. Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves. 8. Talk in terms of the other person's interest. 9. Make the other person feel important - and do so sincerely. 10 The only way to get the best of an argument is to avoid it.

WIN PEOPLE TO YOUR WAY OF THINKING

11. Show respect for the other person's opinions. Never say, "You're wrong." 12. If you are wrong, admit it quickly and emphatically. 13. Begin in a friendly way. 14. Get the other person saying, "Yes, yes" immediately. 15. Let the other person do a great deal of the talking. 16. Let the other person feel that the idea is his or hers. 17. Try honestly to see things from the other person's point of view. 18. Be sympathetic with the other person's ideas and desires. 19. Appeal to the nobler motives. 20. Dramatize your ideas.

BE A LEADER

21. Throw down a challenge. 22. Begin with praise and honest appreciation. 23. Call attention to people's mistakes indirectly. 24. Talk about your own mistakes before criticizing the other person. 25. Ask questions instead of giving direct orders. 26. Let the other person save face. 27. Praise the slightest and every improvement. Be "lavish in your praise." 28. Give the other person a fine reputation to live up to. 29. Use encouragement. Make the fault seem easy to correct. 30. Make the other person happy about doing the thing you suggest.
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Do you think that Jesus would have done better than Dale Carnegie?

Dale Carnegie was a slick, lying, hard core, businessman who's God was money.

All of the apostles except for John died violent deaths at the hands of the religious.
 
everready

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Cruciform said:
Categorically refuted here, here, here, and here.

End of thread.
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It will be the end when

II Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

the Lord comes.

everready
 
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Cruciform said:
Already decisively answered (Post #8).
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If I was going to be a Catholic I would be a secret one. It seems like everday there is some new scandle concerning the Catholic church, now there are 113 priest that are members of Ashley Madison. What's next?
 
OCTOBER23

OCTOBER23

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ROBBY ,

WHY ARE YOU BEATING A DEAD CATHOLIC HORSE ?????.:deadhorse:

Haven't we been over this Catholic Thing too mmmmmmmany times ???
 
Nanja

Nanja

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Robert Pate said:
They are still on this Forum promoting Catholicism.

Are you a Catholic sympathizer?
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Salvation is not by any works of the flesh;
they can never please God Rom. 8:7-8; Eph. 2:8-9.

RCC promotes salvation by works, and you do also.
You quote Rom. 10:13, but you don't understand
the true intent or meaning of that verse 1 Cor. 2:13.

You two are brothers of a false gospel of works salvation! :cheers:

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Cruciform

Cruciform

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Robert Pate said:
Can you imagine being a priest in the Catholic church and at the same time being on Ashley Madisons whore list?
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How many non-Catholic pastors/ministers/teachers/professors are on that list, Pate? Better do the math before making such ignorant statements on a public forum. :think:

In any case, this is merely a Red Herring Fallacy on your part, designed to avoid the fact that you have already been decisively answered. Back to Posts #5 and #8.



Gaudium de veritate,

Cruciform
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Cruciform said:
How many non-Catholic pastors/ministers/teachers/professors are on that list, Pate? Better do the math before making such ignorant statements on a public forum. :think:

In any case, this is merely a Red Herring Fallacy on your part, designed to avoid the fact that you have already been decisively answered. Back to Posts #5 and #8.



Gaudium de veritate,

Cruciform
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It is a proven fact that there are 113 Catholic priest on Ashley Madisons list.
 
beloved57

beloved57

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Nanja said:
Salvation is not by any works of the flesh;
they can never please God Rom. 8:7-8; Eph. 2:8-9.

RCC promotes salvation by works, and you do also.
You quote Rom. 10:13, but you don't understand
the true intent or meaning of that verse 1 Cor. 2:13.

You two are brothers of a false gospel of works salvation! :cheers:

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Yes indeed !
 
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