Christian school board costs district hundreds of thousands of dollars

[Jose Fly]

There's stubborn, and there's pigheadedness, and then there's this...

Judge tells school board to stop proselytizing and praying

A Southern California school board no longer will be allowed to pray, proselytize or read Bible passages during its public meetings.

A district court today ruled that the Chino Valley Unified School District Board of Education’s meetings, which featured calls to “find Jesus” and convert members of the public, were “unconstitutional government endorsements of religion.” Judge Jesus G. Bernal of the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California ordered the board to immediately stop its school-sponsored prayers...

...After warning the school board for more than a year to cease its prayers, Freedom From Religion Foundation teamed up with local parents to sue the board in November 2014. The school board fought the suit, calling it a religious freedom issue.

They hired the Pacific Justice Institute, a pro bono conservative rights law firm, which said the district would not be “cowed by atheist bullying.” The board also had heavy support to continue their prayers from the local megachurch, Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, some of whose 10,000-member congregation attended the district’s schools...

...As a result of today’s court ruling, the Chino Valley Unified School District, which in the past has faced serious budget shortfalls, will be on the hook for tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees. Freedom From Religion lawyers estimate that the district could pay out at least $200,000.

Now there's a waste of taxpayers' money!

Lisa Greathouse, whose children graduated from the school district, long questioned the board’s “promoting their religious agenda.” She said she’s not surprised by today’s decision but thinks “the money spent on legal fees could have been much better spent in the classroom.”

I wonder if they had a lawyer and if they did, how that lawyer advised them. If the lawyer advised them to continue this losing cause, he or she should be fired immediately.

 

[shagster01]

My feeling is that if you sue somebody and lose, all the legal fees should be on you. A lot of pointless legal battles would go away then.

 

[ok doser]

I pray that Judge "Jesus" G. Bernal comes to Christ and gets saved before having to answer for his sin before God

 

[Jose Fly]

My feeling is that if you sue somebody and lose, all the legal fees should be on you. A lot of pointless legal battles would go away then.

The frustrating thing about this is how the school district employees were given plenty of opportunities to stop using the taxpayer-funded schools as a vehicle for their religion, but stubbornly refused.

The only question is, were they really stupid enough to think they could win such a case, or did they just not care?

 

[Crucible]

s

The frustrating thing about this is how the school district employees were given plenty of opportunities to stop using the taxpayer-funded schools as a vehicle for their religion, but stubbornly refused.

Christians are getting tired of the bullying. People have been taken out of business, sued by their department of labor; schools have been threatened to be sued for small things such as having a picture of Jesus on the wall; colleges have harassed students for wearing religious insignia; people have marched on public school events; coaches have been slandered; gone to the Supreme Court with ridiculous demands for reinterpreting every legal document and case having to do with religion..

Christians are now standing their ground.

I find your frustration hilarious, because atheists are loudmouthed tools who can't take what they dish out. You're using the funds as some sort of justification to be up in arms about it, but schools aren't going out of business- it is however something to make one seem holier than what one actually possesses.

 

[OCTOBER23]

Judge Jesus says NO PRAYING ?????

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.

 

[WizardofOz]

Judge Jesus says NO PRAYING ?????

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.

:chuckle: Nice catch

 

[Jose Fly]

Christians are getting tired of the bullying.

And as this case shows, right-wing Christians tend to see "bullying" as "not letting us do whatever we want", e.g., not letting them turn school board meetings into church revivals.

People have been taken out of business, sued by their department of labor; schools have been threatened to be sued for small things such as having a picture of Jesus on the wall; colleges have harassed students for wearing religious insignia; people have marched on public school events; coaches have been slandered; gone to the Supreme Court with ridiculous demands for reinterpreting every legal document and case having to do with religion..

IOW, Christians' special privileges to use government resources to promote their religion are being eroded. I guess it should be expected that those who used to enjoy such special privileges will cry and moan as they are taken away.

Christians are now standing their ground.

And losing, which means you're increasingly having to play by the same rules as everyone else.

I find your frustration hilarious, because atheists are loudmouthed tools who can't take what they dish out.

Examples?

You're using the funds as some sort of justification to be up in arms about it, but schools aren't going out of business

Riiiiiiiight....so why not spend taxpayer dollars defending blatantly illegal actions?

 

[Crucible]

Riiiiiiiight....so why not spend taxpayer dollars defending blatantly illegal actions?

78% of the taxes are from Christians. Or is it only atheists who pay taxes?
That's part of the atheist nonsense, right there. You all have gotten so carried away that you think everything has to cater to the atheist.

And it wasn't 'illegal'. You all caused problems and demanded the Supreme Court to make it illegal, thumping the Lemon Test to determine that just about anything from doves to a T-intersection at a stoplight is endorsing religion. The ACLU and FFRF are just a stockpile of atheist cronies who have nothing else to offer society so they bind their time assaulting anyone who expresses that the universe was created by something other than a theory which doesn't exist.

Which is something that will be overturned as soon as liberals get a dose of the reality they've abandoned for what should be seen as just plain embarassing. There's bills being put in place even now to protect Christians from being sued for nonsense. You all are just a bunch of troublemakers is all, and making the law more complicated. That's it_

 

[kiwimacahau]

I pray that Judge "Jesus" G. Bernal comes to Christ and gets saved before having to answer for his sin before God

What "sin" would that be?

 

[ok doser]

nah - not worth bothering trying to explain it to an atheist like you

 

[kiwimacahau]

nah - not worth bothering trying to explain it to an atheist like you

Not an atheist. So explain what 'sin' this judge has committed by upholding the law? That is, after all, his job.

 

[fzappa13]

There's stubborn, and there's pigheadedness, and then there's this...

Judge tells school board to stop proselytizing and praying



Now there's a waste of taxpayers' money!



I wonder if they had a lawyer and if they did, how that lawyer advised them. If the lawyer advised them to continue this losing cause, he or she should be fired immediately.

There are a couple of things you're not understanding here:

1) All School Board members see the entirety of the school budget as their personal defense fund upon achieving office.

2) Lawyers make money by litigating. Therefor they seldom, if ever, counsel against it.



You might as well tell a Crack Head to walk away from their Dealer. It would be equally as efficacious.

 

[Jose Fly]

78% of the taxes are from Christians. Or is it only atheists who pay taxes?

What does that have to do with anything?

That's part of the atheist nonsense, right there. You all have gotten so carried away that you think everything has to cater to the atheist.

I understand how you see it that way. For a very long time the field has been tilted in your favor; now that the field is being leveled you see that as unfair and "catering" to folks who previously had it tilted against them.

And it wasn't 'illegal'. You all caused problems and demanded the Supreme Court to make it illegal, thumping the Lemon Test to determine that just about anything from doves to a T-intersection at a stoplight is endorsing religion. The ACLU and FFRF are just a stockpile of atheist cronies who have nothing else to offer society so they bind their time assaulting anyone who expresses that the universe was created by something other than a theory which doesn't exist.

Which is something that will be overturned as soon as liberals get a dose of the reality they've abandoned for what should be seen as just plain embarassing. There's bills being put in place even now to protect Christians from being sued for nonsense. You all are just a bunch of troublemakers is all, and making the law more complicated. That's it_

That's an amusing rant, but it doesn't change reality. We both know which way things are trending, and if history is any guide, we aren't going back.

 

[kiwimacahau]

Originally Posted by ok doser
nah - not worth bothering trying to explain it to an atheist like you



Not an atheist. So explain what 'sin' this judge has committed by upholding the law? That is, after all, his job.

**BUMP

** Still waiting

 

[Jose Fly]

UPDATE: Now we have a dollar figure for how much taxpayer money the board wasted.

Chino Valley school board members ordered to pay $202K in legal fees

And guess who that money is going to?

In the meantime, Bernal wants the three board members leading the spiritual charge in the district to pay the legal fees of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, the Wisconsin-based group that sued the district over the prayer issue, along with anonymous district staff, students and community members.

So the atheist group, Freedom from Religion Foundation, gets the money. Way to go Christians!

 

[ok doser]

don't wet yourself

 

[fzappa13]

UPDATE: Now we have a dollar figure for how much taxpayer money the board wasted.

Chino Valley school board members ordered to pay $202K in legal fees

And guess who that money is going to?



So the atheist group, Freedom from Religion Foundation, gets the money. Way to go Christians!

You are mistaken. As with most civil litigation, lawyers get the money.

 

[Rusha]

The frustrating thing about this is how the school district employees were given plenty of opportunities to stop using the taxpayer-funded schools as a vehicle for their religion, but stubbornly refused.

The only question is, were they really stupid enough to think they could win such a case, or did they just not care?

Or perhaps a little bit of both ...

 

[Crucible]

s

Christians are getting tired of the bullying. People have been taken out of business, sued by their department of labor; schools have been threatened to be sued for small things such as having a picture of Jesus on the wall; colleges have harassed students for wearing religious insignia; people have marched on public school events; coaches have been slandered; gone to the Supreme Court with ridiculous demands for reinterpreting every legal document and case having to do with religion..

Christians are now standing their ground.

I find your frustration hilarious, because atheists are loudmouthed tools who can't take what they dish out. You're using the funds as some sort of justification to be up in arms about it, but schools aren't going out of business- it is however something to make one seem holier than what one actually possesses.