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How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

expos4ever

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When asked to present proof of billions of years the overwhelming majority of Americans will admit they cannot do that. When asked to explain why they believe the earth is billions of years old they can only reply something like "I believe what he said."
Yes, so what?

The science that shows that the earth is billions of years old requires specialized training to understand.

Just like specialized training is required to do a heart transplant, or design an aircraft, or understand the inner workings of the atom, or understand the general theory of relativity.

Your fantasy world of simple black and white and demons under every doily notwithstanding, the real world is complex,

And the fact that the science here is complex makes it no less credible.
 

expos4ever

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Try running evolution without an existing universe.
Irrelevant, of course. Your tinfoil hat wearing buddy was, as usual, demonstrating his lack of knowledge of the facts.

The theory of evolution is completely disconnected from theories about how the world came into being.
 

Right Divider

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The science that shows that the earth is billions of years old requires specialized training to understand.
Hilarious. Maybe specialized indoctrination.
Just like specialized training is required to do a heart transplant, or design an aircraft, or understand the inner workings of the atom, or understand the general theory of relativity.
The "science" of radiometric dating is not hard to understand at all.
Your fantasy world of simple black and white and demons under every doily notwithstanding, the real world is complex,

And the fact that the science here is complex makes it no less credible.
Bluff and bluster.... common evolutionist tactic.
 

expos4ever

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The atheist materialist needs a story of how everything came to be without a designer. That starts with how the universe came into being. You cannot have the "evolution of all life from dead matter" until you have.... dead matter.
Again, the theory of evolution has no connection at all to the matter of how the world came to be. You are trying to muddy the waters here by inferring motives. The simple fact is this: the theory of evolution is completely non-committal on how the universe came to be.
 

marke

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The theory of evolution has nothing, repeat nothing, to do with how the universe came into being.
The theory of evolution assumes God did not create life on earth even though evolutionists claim evolution speculations make no claims or assumptions about origins. If God did create life on earth then evolution is a lie. No wonder evolutionists want to pretend ignorance about origins.
 

marke

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Yes, so what?
The science that shows that the earth is billions of years old requires specialized training to understand.
Atheists and humanists claim the earth is billions of years old but they cannot prove it without using unproven speculations as a basis for their 'scientific' assumptions.
Just like specialized training is required to do a heart transplant, or design an aircraft, or understand the inner workings of the atom, or understand the general theory of relativity.

Your fantasy world of simple black and white and demons under every doily notwithstanding, the real world is complex,

And the fact that the science here is complex makes it no less credible.
God-rejecting secular science speculations are often complicated, contradictory, and scientifically improbable or impossible.
 

marke

Well-known member
Irrelevant, of course. Your tinfoil hat wearing buddy was, as usual, demonstrating his lack of knowledge of the facts.

The theory of evolution is completely disconnected from theories about how the world came into being.
Evolution has no logical foundation. It claims ignorance about supernatural forces involved and yet insists supernatural forces were not involved.
 

marke

Well-known member
Again, the theory of evolution has no connection at all to the matter of how the world came to be. You are trying to muddy the waters here by inferring motives. The simple fact is this: the theory of evolution is completely non-committal on how the universe came to be.
Evolutionists assume as a foundational doctrine that God did not create life on earth and yet evolutionists claim they remain ignorant of whether or not God was involved.
 

expos4ever

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Hilarious. Maybe specialized indoctrination.
Think what you are, by implication, asking people to believe. You are asking them to believe that tens of thousands of highly trained experts - with real jobs they can lose if discovered to be lying - are collaborating in a vast conspiracy to deceive the world into thinking that we evolved from lower forms when there is no good evidence to support this view. If you are willing to take such notions seriously, you can dismiss any well-established scientific finding.

And all this because you insist on a literal reading of the first chapter or so of Genesis, when a metaphorical one is certainly plausible, and in no way diminishes the authority of scripture.
 

expos4ever

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Evolution has no logical foundation. It claims ignorance about supernatural forces involved and yet insists supernatural forces were not involved.
Another of your many error (or lies). Evolution is nothing if not logical - it is a powerful explanatory framework that makes sense of vast quantities of data.
 

Right Divider

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Think what you are, by implication, asking people to believe. You are asking them to believe that tens of thousands of highly trained experts - with real jobs they can lose if discovered to be lying - are collaborating in a vast conspiracy to deceive the world into thinking that we evolved from lower forms when there is no good evidence to support this view. If you are willing to take such notions seriously, you can dismiss any well-established scientific finding.

And all this because you insist on a literal reading of the first chapter or so of Genesis, when a metaphorical one is certainly plausible, and in no way diminishes the authority of scripture.
Let's talk science instead of fallacies.
 
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