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They have become gradually more unresponsive as time goes by.
And now they have brought out the "God hotline" trump card.
WOW!
How To Get To Heaven When You Die
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And now they have brought out the "God hotline" trump card.
WOW!
xfrodobagginsx
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GOD KNOWS ALL THINGS
Job 37:16 KJV
[16] Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, The wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?
Job 37:16 KJV
[16] Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, The wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?
Job 37:16 Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, The wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge? | King James Version (KJV) | Download The Bible App Now
Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, The wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?
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GOD KNOWS ALL THINGS
Job 37:16 KJV
[16] Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, The wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?
Job 37:16 Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, The wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge? | King James Version (KJV) | Download The Bible App Now
Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, The wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?bible.com
Rom 15:14 (AKJV/PCE)
(15:14) And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another.
1John 2:20 (AKJV/PCE)
(2:20) But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
If God has exhaustive knowledge of the future... why does the Bible have many examples proving the opposite?Jer 32:35 (AKJV/PCE)
(32:35) And they built the high places of Baal, which [are] in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through [the fire] unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
Jer 7:31 (AKJV/PCE)
(7:31) And they have built the high places of Tophet, which [is] in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded [them] not, neither came it into my heart.
Let me understand this claim.
Are suggesting that you asked God a question and you got a direct answer from God's lips to your ears?
Is that what you are claiming or was this some sort of figure of speech or what?
That's 100% a real question. I am not making fun of you or being sarcastic or anything like that.
You are using the word of God to tell a lie.GOD KNOWS ALL THINGS
Job 37:16 KJV
[16] Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, The wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?
Job 37:16 Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, The wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge? | King James Version (KJV) | Download The Bible App Now
Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, The wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?bible.com
xfrodobagginsx
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I am telling the truth, YOU are lying, falsely accusing God of not knowing all things. This is yet another verse among many that proves you wrong, yet you won't repent of your error. Perfect in knowledge means that God knows all things. Check mate.
The difference is that I've proven my case. All you've got is repeating your position as though nothing was said against it. In short, you're forced to lie to maintain your doctrine.
Some doctrine!
Let me understand this claim.
Are suggesting that you asked God a question and you got a direct answer from God's lips to your ears?
Is that what you are claiming or was this some sort of figure of speech or what?
That's 100% a real question. I am not making fun of you or being sarcastic or anything like that.
Speaking to God like a conversation each day is part of my faith life. God answers most of my questions within 8-12 hours. Sometimes a little longer. It can come through scripture, through a friend telling me something that directly answers the question, and most of the time from the still small voice that has guided all of my best decisions in life. This voice speaks to me pretty much all day long in various ways. The gift of the Holy Spirit.
Not what's being talked about.
If his claim is as benign as that, then I have no real problem. It isn't biblical but it isn't insane either.
Idolater
"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
You're using the word again.
“ Where did you get the word 'symbolize' from? ”
It's certainly not outta the Bible.
“ Are you a Jehovah's Witness? ”
Reason I ask, is they put the word "means" in the Bible, where Jesus only says, "This IS My body," the JW Bible reads, "This MEANS My body," which is not in the Bible. They just change the Bible.
"they are spirit" does NOT mean they are symbolic.
xfrodobagginsx
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No, I actually believe what the Bible says. You should too. Not sure how you arrived at the Mid Acts view. You are way off in other areas. Jesus said the things He was saying was Spiritual, meaning that you do not eat His physical flesh. It is a Spiritual thing to take communion. The bread and wine do not become His body and blood, so yes they are a physical representation of something Spiritual. Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. Do you at least believe that? A JW doesn't believe that.
Even when God himself tells you to the contrary?
Idolater
"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
I repeat, "they are spirit" does NOT mean "they are symbolic."
ofc. I'm not a JW, who thinks Jesus said, "This MEANS My body," He said, "This IS My body."
You wouldn't know a sound argument if one walked up and introduced itself to you.
Idolater
"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
Try me
I just did.
Try looking up a guilt by association fallacy. Try looking up the poisoning the well fallacy. Try just finding any book at all on how sound reason works and read it.
xfrodobagginsx
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I believe His Word. God doesn’t contradict His Word. Too bad if you don't believe that. God’s Word told you on many places in different ways that He knows all things, yet you don't believe it.
Precisely my point!
This counts as a lie, Frodo.
I've shown you otherwise. The fact that you ignore it, doesn't make the proof go away. You've been shown and you have seen the proof that what "God told you" is false precisely because of what you just said, God does not contradict His Word.
Genesis 18:21 I will go down now and see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry against it that has come to Me; and if not, I will know.”
Isaiah 5:4 What more could have been done to My vineyard That I have not done in it? Why then, when I expected it to bring forth good grapes, Did it bring forth wild grapes?
Jeremiah 19:5 (they have also built the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings to Baal, which I did not command or speak, nor did it come into My mind),
And on and on I could go multiplying quotes of plainly understandable passages of God's word where God Himself is speaking of His own lack of knowledge. None of it matters to you at all because "God told you" otherwise.
xfrodobagginsx
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Those verses only prove what I told you already. All things must be demonstrated in reality. Although God knows all things, as Scripture CLEARLY says, He rules the Universe on our level. These verses do not prove that God isn't all knowing.