Another detail that could help, is the contrast between Jesus in humility not grasping at equality with God, and what Adam and Eve did, when they grasped at equality with God.
There were many posts, and I decided to limit my response to a few aspects. The Post that you refer to also had a few other portions, and I thought that these were very superficial. But I will briefly respond to the part that you now refer to, except the reference which I have not yet considered:
It is still God the Father speaking through His Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God. The difference and the feature that you notice and draw attention to, the previous revelation through the prophets was partial, while the revelation through Jesus is complete and final:
Adam and Eve were created in the image and after the likeness of God, and as such they were in the form of God. They grasped at being equal with God by partaking of the forbidden fruit. Jesus who was made a little lower than the Angels (Elohim) Psalm 8:5, and was because of this the Son of God, and thus in the form of God, did not grasp at equality, but became a servant, and voluntarily submitted to death. Please note that the same word “form” is used for “form of God” and “form of a servant” and this shows that this is speaking of his disposition of mind, not his pre-existence.
John 14:28 (KJV): Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. .
Genesis 1:26–27 (KJV): 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. .
This is where I disagree, and the title of the thread is asking this very question. If we ALL know, then there is no discussion. Jesus was a human, a man, the Son of God, not God the Son, the second person of the Trinity.
I have thought about it. The word “form” comes from Philippians 2 and some Trinitarians would have us accept that the Greek word should be translated as “very nature” such as the NIV. But they then give us that Jesus was in the “very nature of a servant”, which does not make much sense. You will need to explain how Adam and Eve were made in the image and after the likeness of God. I accept “form of God” as a summary of this, especially for Jesus, as the Son of God.
Yes.
I agree that the disposition of mind of Jesus was as a servant, because as he grew and throughout his ministry he humbled himself to listen to the Father’s will and also to be submissive to a voluntary death. As he was also in the form of God, being the Son of God by birth, he could have chosen a different path.
My explanation of “first and the last” is a little difficult, but briefly commenting on “pierced”, in piercing Jesus, God the Father felt so identified with His Son, it was if they had attempted to pierce God the Father. When Paul sought to persecute the believers at Damascus, Jesus confronted him and asked why Paul was persecuting “me”, that is Jesus was so identified with these believers, it was as if Paul was persecuting Jesus himself.
That is a FALSEHOOD.
A strong denial for something that is clearly taught in the Scriptures:
But surely you will recognise that the thirty pieces of silver was the money paid to Judas to betray Jesus, and not to Yahweh, God the Father.
God the Father will judge the world through His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, who is still a man, even after his exaltation: