What a lying leftist doofus.
Is Mike Pence a TRAITOR?
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ok doser
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But totally persuasive to all the retards who believed him
Fauci did exactly that by encouraging people to take the previous flu vaccine.
Arthur Brain
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He wasn't 'overly optimistic' at all, he simply lied about it is all. He knew fine well how much of a danger it presented as outlined in the interviews he had with Bob Woodward. On the one hand, he admitted to how dangerous it was, admitted to downplaying it, liking downplaying it and on the other he was holding press conferences telling everybody that it was just like the flu, would be all under control, would magically disappear last April etc. His excuse: To avoid a panic. Well, wasn't too long before the number of deaths escalated to the point where he had to declare a national emergency. He's responsible because he could have enacted safety measures long before he did and many lives could have been saved. Instead, he lied to the American people about it and he had no excuse. Other countries recognized the dangers of Covid and enforced safety protocols without recourse to downplaying the severity of the disease but oh no, not Trump. After all, he had mass rallies to speak at didn't he?
Of course you won't care because it doesn't fit your narrative but it's true. His actions were shameful
Arthur Brain
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Absolutely, but to hardcore "MAGA"'s it won't mean anything.
Here's something else worth remembering:
"Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” said the expert." -- https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...s-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air
You hate Trump and falsely blame him for making covid worse. You are wrong and that is inexcusable. Anti-American Marxist baboons invented the blame Trump narrative for evil political reasons and they were wrong and inexcusable. America is being destroyed by democrats for political reasons just to promote and preserve their own evil power, making them not much different than other wicked political figures around the world who did great damage and murdered millions of innocent people just to seize power and keep it.
Democrats put covid patients in rest homes and lied about the numbers of covid deaths also. Their blind cultist supporters should focus on those deaths rather than blaming Trump for shutting down travel and restricting movements in order to try to stop the spread of covid.
It seems Kushner must have seen how the covid problem could be used for political advantage. That is exactly what democrats did, use the covid epidemic for political advantage.
Arthur Brain
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There's no denying what Trump said in public and what he was caught saying in private. The double standards with people like you are all too self evident. If Biden had been in power, or any other democrat president and had done the same as Trump had - lied in press briefings about how Covid was just like the flu, how it was all under control, that the numbers would fall and it would just magically disappear come warmer weather - you'd have been all over them like the proverbial rash. You'd be baying for blood, calling them liars, unfit for office, guilty of betraying the American people etc. But because you're too invested in your own puerile brand of partisan politics and feeble narratives you'll give Trump a free pass no matter what.
The same with the ongoing nonsense over the results for the last election. If Biden had lost and his administration and legal team kicked up the same fuss as Trump's then you'd be ridiculing them for outlandish conspiracy theories and probably calling them a bunch of sore losers and whiners etc.
I don't play partisan politics. If a democrat president had done the same as Trump doing Covid then I'd be calling them out on it just as I'd ridicule the lame efforts of a democrat administration to contest election results with nought but baseless allegations. Go figure that one out.
There is no doubt what people claim Trump said in public and in private, and there is no doubt the enemies of America twisted everything he said and they falsely claim he said to their own evil advantage. But there is much doubt about what Biden really meant or said in public or in private due to the close monitoring of his every word by his handlers. I prefer Trump's way of communicating, not Biden's carefully monitored public speeches.
Arthur Brain
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Nobody twisted anything, they don't have to, his words are all on record and you've just proven your own double standards with your own words. One rule for Trump and another for the opposition. If Trump says something pathetic then it has to be 'mangled' or 'distorted' somehow. Flat out wrong and engaging this further is a total waste of time (not that it hasn't been already).
You stick to your partisan politics and delude yourself as much as you want. A brick wall would think things through more than you.
Trump did not invent covid, Fauci helped the Chinese do it and for that Americans should be blaming him and his cohorts, not Trump. Get real.
Arthur Brain
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Nobody said Trump invented Covid anyway so that's entirely irrelevant along with your feeble Fauci sidebar. What Trump did do was lie to the American people, including you about the severity of it all the while knowing full well how serious it was going to get. All in his own words, all caught on record, fact. Still, that just doesn't matter to you does it?
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Well using trump’s standards (he repeatedly referred to Obama as “the founder of Isis”, he (trump) is the founder of COVID-19.
Whether Obama intended to aid ISIS in Libya, in Egypt, and in other countries, his actions and funding had just that effect.
Trump's predictions about the decline of covid missed the mark and people were disappointed. For that, supposedly, democrats claim Trump was more wicked than the devil. Cuomo rejected Trump's help with the hospital ship and instead sent covid patients into rest homes, killing thousands more needlessly, for which democrats are more than willing to overlook or forgive. Fauci helped invent covid and then lied about his involvement, slowing down investigations into the origin which may have been a great help in combatting the virus, and democrats are more than eager to overlook or forgive his crime as well.
Democrats stand clearly on the side of stupid and they will not budge.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
In Italy?
Arthur Brain
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Those "predictions" were lies, as you've been shown. No point in denying it, it's fact, all on indisputable record. While he was telling you and the rest of the American people that it was just a mild flu, that it was all under control, that the numbers would drop and it would all just disappear in his press briefings - he knew just how severe Covid actually was and how bad it was going to be - all caught on record in his own voice. He lied, pure and simple.
Denying that Trump did so is not only stupid, it's pathetic.
We know Fauci lied because we have him on tape behind the scenes plotting his lies. We have no verification that Trump deliberately lied as his enemies continue to allege.u