Ben Masada
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Sorry, I tried to understand your post but it makes no sense to me.
Care to make it more clear?
Jesus is God !
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Sorry, I tried to understand your post but it makes no sense to me.
Care to make it more clear?
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
brass tacks......
brass tacks......
To those in continuous rounds with keypurr,....it only goes in circles as is typical in Unit-arian/Trinitarian debates......as well as those who differentiate between the man Jesus and the divine-spirit 'Christ' holding a more Adoptionist view. In any case its only a 'belief' about the various denominations and some go to the extreme of making a dogma over such matters.
As shared before.....only 'God' is 'God' and that depends on how we define such....so....apples or oranges? :think:
The only thing you can know right now is that you are aware.....thats it on a most fundamental level. There is awareness which is the essential reality, from which all knowledge and perceptions are born. What arises in consciousness are mental projections, assumptions, point of view, opinion, beliefs, presumptions, etc....which are subject to change. Pure awareness alone is unchanging. I am that.
pj
brass tacks......
To those in continuous rounds with keypurr,....it only goes in circles as is typical in Unit-arian/Trinitarian debates......as well as those who differentiate between the man Jesus and the divine-spirit 'Christ' holding a more Adoptionist view. In any case its only a 'belief' about the various denominations and some go to the extreme of making a dogma over such matters.
As shared before.....only 'God' is 'God' and that depends on how we define such....so....apples or oranges? :think:
The only thing you can know right now is that you are aware.....thats it on a most fundamental level. There is awareness which is the essential reality, from which all knowledge and perceptions are born. What arises in consciousness are mental projections, assumptions, point of view, opinion, beliefs, presumptions, etc....which are subject to change. Pure awareness alone is unchanging. I am that.
pj
Zeke
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No it was a progression we all experience, the babe in the manger is just a symbol for the spiritual birth in us, that is neither male or female, but manifests both qualities in one body which has over came the test of duality, and is nameless and has a benevolent nature of the more excellent way which predates the historic invention of the human sacrifice lie, it follows no religion or dogma and is all things to all people and is immortal which is the state where fear can no longer tread down memory lane.
Milky Way Galaxy, the baby-lon way of incoherent babble babies in Gods nursery.
aaawwww ! ! ! that makes baby feel good, huh ? "nobody puts baby in a corner" - Patrick Swayze -
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NO ! I AM ! - i'm aware of pure awareness. it sucks. you can't just think of pretty flowers and puppy dogs. and floating through space with no cares. just kiddin', sure we can ! self awareness must come first, grasshopper. -
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Zeke
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aaawwww ! ! ! that makes baby feel good, huh ? "nobody puts baby in a corner" - Patrick Swayze -
Glad your feeling better.
some don't "get it". it's not your fault. 2 Corinthians 4:4 - Mark 4:12 - John 1:5 - Acts 8:30 - just a crazy opinion that i don't necessarily believe - but God could have Chosen the Chinese to speak to. it's not becaue Jews or Hebrews were better, smarter, prettier, well behaved people. you "feel" special, yet refer to Jesus as the "jew" that He was. what do you mean by that ? it just makes no sense. - :comeout:
keypurr
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Christ is God's FIRST creation for ALL things were created THROUGH him by the Father. Christ is firstborn of all creatures, the express image of the father. Col 1:15, Heb 1:3.
keypurr
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Your confusing the MAN Jesus and the Spirit Christ that was IN him.
Christ is the express image of the father and was given his fullness.
Christ is the spiritual son God sent, not the Man Jesus. Christ laid the foundation for the universe. Jesus was born in Bethlehem.c He is the body God prepared for his Christ. Heb 10:5
keypurr
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Jesus is God !
I strongly agree brother.
Jesus was a man.
The word in John 1 is the spiritual son Christ. Read cil 1:15 and Heb 1. The express image of God, who is spirit, would be spirit, not man.
I strongly agree brother.
Jesus was a man.
The word in John 1 is the spiritual son Christ. Read cil 1:15 and Heb 1. The express image of God, who is spirit, would be spirit, not man.
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keypurr
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The WORD is Christ, the spirit, Jesus became the Christ at his anointing. Acts 10:38.
Aimiel
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It isn't confusion that Jesus told Peter that he had, but a revelation of Whom Jesus was (is)...
He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Separating Jesus and Christ makes Him into two men. He is Christ (The Anointed One) and has always been, since He is The Creator.
keypurr
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Christ is both a name and a title. Jesus came into existence when he was born. Christ was with God before the universe was created. Jesus was anointed with Christ and then became the Christ. Christ is a spirit, the express image of the father. Christ was given the fullness of the Father. Jesus was born a man. The WORD Christ became a man by dwelling in the body, Jesus, prepared for him.
Most Trinity folks see Jesus Christ as a man and a God. This is just what I see. Christ is a form God yet he has a God over him. I think my thoughts put this in perspective. But Christ being the image of the Father makes him a creation, for all images are creations. That is hard for most to digest but that is what I see as written in the Bible. There is only one TRUE God, the Father.
keypurr
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Ever read the book of Matthew?
Jesus was born, every one born is a creation.
Christ on the other hand is the express image of the Father, also a creation for all images are creations. Christ is a spirit that took the form of man.
Ever read the Gospel of John?
John 1:1 King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 King James Version (KJV)
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
You started loosing your grasp on the truth when you started thinking about those theories.
keypurr
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Jesus is not the WORD in John 1 BR.
Christ, the spiritual son of the most high God is the word that BECAME flesh. It took place when Jesus was anointed with Christ. Acts 10:38