On the omniscience of God

Clete

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I find open theism strange , like the word of faith movement
If you can refute a single syllable of it, I'd hear it gladly.

You won't even make an attempt! You want to pretend like you're smart enough to use terms like "ad hominem," but every time you do, all you accomplish is proving that you don't even know what the term means or how it's properly used.

Worse than that, you never correct yourself. You just keep right on, blithely accepting whatever idiotic nonsense you've been taught to say by whatever idiot was taught the same nonsense by the idiots before him. You simply do not care whether what you say and believe makes any sense. And yet you have the gall to show up here and tell me that you find my doctrine strange. I've spent my entire life seriously testing what I believe against the hardest, most well thought-out arguments I can find, while you mindlessly parrot whatever you've been taught.

Why should I, or anyone, care what you think? You don't think! You couldn't think yourself out of a wet paper bag! You go through your life emoting your way through every issue and/or believing whatever the man behind the pulpit tells you to believe, and yet somehow, you, the parroting moron, think you're in a position to tell me that my doctrine is strange. That's literally laughable! Your trust of my doctrine would be reason enough for me to reexamine it!

John 10:34-35 [34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? [35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (and the scripture cannot be broken)

both want to take verses literally that shouldn't be taken literally
and verses that should be taken literally are dismissed
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How would you know the difference?

That's yet another question that will never receive an answer!

Why?

Because you don't know the answer and don't care to find out whether such an answer even exists because if it does, you might find out that you've been parroting nonsense just like these "weird" open theists have been telling you!
 
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way 2 go

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Your guilt by association fallacy has been duly noted.
I find open theism strange , like the word of faith movement with selective literalism
John 10:34-35 [34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? [35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (and the scripture cannot be broken)

both want to take verses literally that shouldn't be taken literally
and verses that should be taken literally are dismissed

both are dogmatic with selective literalism

for example
when an open theist holds that God did not know where Adam & Eve were because God said "where are you"
its the same thing as word of faith people with John 10:34 , both are dogmatic with selective literalism


does the open theist dogma twist these following verses , yes just like the word of faith movement with their with selective literalism

(Matthew 10:30) But even the hairs of your head are all numbered
if God knows the intimate detail of everyone's hairs on their heads , he has to know where they are (◔_◔).

(Matthew 12:36) But I say to you that every idle word, whatever men may speak, they shall give account of it in the day of judgment.
this verse is not even possible in open theism with God only having selective knowledge (◔_◔)

in open theism , how does God keep from knowing what he doesn't want to know ?

is this lucky guesses , maybe they will repent says the open theist , it's prophecy? in open theism mans freewill trumps prophecy .
(Revelation 16:9-11) [9] And men were burned with great heat. And they blasphemed the name of God, He having authority over these plagues. And they did not repent in order to give Him glory. [10] And the fifth angel poured out his vial on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom became darkened. And they gnawed their tongues from the pain. [11] And they blasphemed the God of Heaven because of their pains and their sores. And they did not repent of their deeds.

(Revelation 4:1) After these things I looked, and behold, a door was opened in Heaven. And the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me, saying, Come up here, and I will show you what must occur after these things

(Revelation 22:19) And if anyone takes away from the words of the Book of this prophecy, God will take away his part out of the Book of Life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which have been written in this Book.
 

Derf

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both want to take verses literally that shouldn't be taken literally
and verses that should be taken literally are dismissed
And how would you know which verses are to be taken literally? Is there a guide for that? Can we see the guide you use for determining which verses are to be taken literally and which not?
 

VladtheDestroyer

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I find open theism strange

Does this mean you will be ignoring JR's question:

Does God have a free will?

You also haven't explained by your own standard, how you, w2g, are not giving your own free-will preeminence over God each time you place an order at MacDonalds.

This is a serious question. And it seems like you would have an easy answer for this if you actually live by what you believe.
 
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