Parents promise lawsuit after son dies in Adams County jail
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About the dehydration, do you notice there is a sink in the cell with him? He had access to hydration.
They also gave him Gatorade - his own mother said it and according to your article he was checked out by a nurse before the check when they called an ambulance.
While i am sorry to hear that he died, which can happen when someone is coming off heroin addiction, i cant see how the jail is to blame, he was given his meds, and he was given hydration.
Do you think every high person or drunk should be taken to the hospital when they are arrested?
Quetzal
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Those are interesting questions and I did a bit of digging. Apparently it was heroin and when you are coming down from it, you cannot keep liquids down. From what I read, when this happens, he needs an IV.
Thats when you aren't being medicated off it. He was on medication, not cold turkey and was checked out by a nurse. His death was due to respiration issues, not dehydration, his death was due to natural causes.
I can understand how his mother wants to blame someone because of her sons addiction issues, but unless more information comes out, i dont see her winning this.
There is no way to know how much damage he had already done to himself and thats not the jails fault.
No. He needed the IV because he couldn't drink fluids orally, because of the withdrawal. He wasn't given that, hence the death of dehydration, and hence observing that he had a sink to get water is insufficient. The point of the IV is to keep him alive and hydrated.
It's actually exactly the same treatment you might receive if you went into a hospital with norovirus.
PureX
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Clearly, he should have been under medical supervision. We know this because he is now dead from the lack of it. A person under medical supervision would not have died from insufficient hydration. He should have been taken to a hospital to be checked out, before locking him in a jail cell because keeping a human being alive is more important than locking him up for some minor crime.
Evidence? I haven't seen anything like that stated except from his mother. Cause of death wasn't dehydration either.
OK, that's what his mother is alleging. That's what the trial will determine.
Well no, the medical examiner already determined it, and it wasnt dehydration.
I don't think death occurs from heroin withdrawals, it rarely, if ever happens. Alcohol withdrawal can kill more frequently.
Pat Moore Foundation:
Can Heroin Withdrawal Kill You?
Heroin withdrawal is an acute state induced by the dramatic reduction or cessation of the use of heroin. Withdrawal happens after a person has been abusing the drug for a time period and then decides to stop. The symptoms normally begin from six to twelve hours after taking your last dose and peaks within a day or two, gradually subsiding over a week. However, some patients may experience withdrawal symptoms spanning over weeks or months.
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Can you die from heroin withdrawal?
Death from heroin addiction is very unlikely, but it can occur as a result of seizures or respiratory complications. Withdrawal arising from high heroin doses can cause seizures. Having a seizure increases the risk of respiratory failure which can consequently cause death. Seeking medical attention can help in preempting such fatalities, as medical personnel are trained to handle such situations. They can also give very valuable information to you and your loved one about other appropriate treatment options.
During withdrawal, the patient can experience a myriad of symptoms ranging from insomnia to loss of body fluids to fever. Being under the care of medical staff specializing in managing withdrawal can help patients in smoothly sailing through the process. This is the best reason for seeking medical treatment from a detox center. Even though the withdrawal process is a rather painful process, it is an essential phase of recovery and patients have to go through it in order to completely recover from heroin addiction.
Here's an 11 page report from Joseph S. Pacyga, Chief Trial District Attorney for the 17th Judicial District in Colorado.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/286317260/Adams-County-Review-Tyler-Tabor-Death
Here's a fact of life boyz and girls:
Junkies die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz_DNrKVrQ8
The reality is there, we hear much more of it in an interconnected world, and we stand up for ourselves and figure out how to best navigate through this new reality.
Police vs. People
Violence vs. Negotiation
The Kingdom of God vs. the everyday default reality.
False, it happens all the time.
He was under medical supervision. He was never moved out from under it.
That doesn't mean it's the last word on the subject.
Records show that he kept down fluids and he was monitored over 3 days by medical staff. The jail is not responsible for his long term addiction that resulted in his death. How do you think he was taking meds in jail, the medical staff gave it to him, should they have given him heroin?
Do liberals ever believe that things happen sometimes because of no personal responsibility?
Holy Toledo Aikido, you make sense !!!
I believe that there will be a trial, and an outcome from a jury. I was just clarifying what the mother was claiming, since you seemed to be misunderstanding it. I don't see much point in trying to pass judgement from the bench of the Internet.
No, no. Liberals totally believe in personal responsibility...but only when the persons involved are wearing a badge and uniform. :nono: