Public shaming of drug addicts - Do you think its a deterant to drug use?

Public shaming of drug addicts - Do you think its a deterant to drug use?

  • yes

    Votes: 6 31.6%
  • no, please state why in thread

    Votes: 13 68.4%

  • Total voters
    19

Angel4Truth

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Making addiction and drug use less harmful, is now a cure? This is just more liberal jacked up thinking that further lessons accountability and real cures. More excuses to keep being non productive drains on society and lead away from God. (they cant help it, they are victims of a disease)

New potential for marijuana: Treating drug addiction

(CNN)Harm reduction is a strategy for treating addiction that begins with acceptance. A friendlier, less disciplined sister of abstinence, this philosophy aims to reduce the overall level of drug use among people who are unable or simply unwilling to stop. What should naturally follow is a decrease in the many negative consequences of drug use.
In other words: progress, not perfection, as advocates of Alcoholics Anonymous often say.
Most European countries and Canada have embraced the idea of harm reduction, designing policies that help people with drug problems to live better, healthier lives rather than to punish them.
On the front lines of addiction in the United States, some addiction specialists have also begun to work toward this end.
Joe Schrank, program director and founder of High Sobriety, is one of them. He says his Los Angeles-based treatment center uses medicinal cannabis as a detox and maintenance protocol for people who have more severe addictions, although it's effectiveness is not scientifically proven.
"So it's a harm-reduction theory," he said. "With cannabis, there is no known lethal dose; it can be helpful for certain conditions."
"Some say it's hypocritical because, you know, you're supposed to go to rehab to get off drugs," said Schrank, who recently celebrated 20 years of sobriety from alcohol and all drugs. "And cessation of drug use can be a goal for some people, but pacing is also important." Some patients want to gradually move into abstinence, weaning themselves off drugs over time. Others want to maintain sobriety from a drug by using a less harsh drug, such as cannabis.

Others, including Todd Stumbo, CEO of Blue Ridge Mountain Recovery Center in Georgia, do not favor using marijuana as treatment for addiction.
"I'm all about adding interventions and therapeutic techniques that have proven to be significantly profound in the changes to somebody's life and treatment. Unfortunately, I don't know that there's evidence to substantiate that marijuana's had that effect," says Stumbo. "Our take is abstinence based and we use every tool or intervention we can that's been proven effective in the past."
Still, harm reduction is gaining acceptance in the wider field of addiction specialists in the U.S.
"In principle, what we have aimed for many years is to find interventions that would lead to complete abstinence," said Dr. Nora Volkow, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. Practically, though, that has been very difficult to achieve with relapsing addictions.
"One of the things is, we don't have any evidence-based medication that has proven to be efficacious for the treatment of cocaine addiction," Volkow said. "So we currently have no medicine to intervene, and it can be a very severe addiction and actually quite dangerous."
Cocaine's effects: Highs and harms
Cocaine's effects: Highs and harms
Dangerous because it gives users a high that literally alters the brain. Medical consequences of cocaine addiction include seizure, stroke and bleeding within the brain.
"We have started to explore the extent to which interventions that can decrease the amount of drug consumed can have benefits to the individual," Volkow said, adding that she'd make this same argument for opioids and heroin. "It would be valuable to decrease the amount of drug consumed."
Schrank is clear on the value of simply reducing drug use.
"We think of addiction as this light switch you can turn on and off," he said. "What we're learning is that for some people, it's similar to scuba diving: You can only come up 20 feet so often or you get very, very sick. When people stop immediately and that abruptly, it really makes them vulnerable."
Schrank, who readily concedes there are possible health and addiction risks with marijuana, says he offers his cannabis detox and maintenance protocol to people addicted to crack cocaine as well as those trying to kick opioids. Through the years, he says, he's treated about 50 people with this technique and expects to see "more people wanting to try to have a voice in their recovery rather than just plug into systems telling them what to do."

Marijuana "can really help people with pain management and other health issues, or it can help them be safer," Schrank said.

Reversing heroin's damage

Yasmin Hurd, director of the Addiction Institute at Mount Sinai School of Medicine, says generally, cannabidiol is the more important compound when it comes to marijuana as a treatment for addiction. It is one of the two primary cannabinoids, along with Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), found in the cannabis plant. In terms of the wider scope of medical marijuana research, this is the "same cannabidiol being looked at for the kids with epilepsy," Hurd said.
THC, she says, binds to cannabinoid receptors in our brains (as do the natural cannabinoids our bodies produce), and it is the stimulation of those receptors that brings a "high." By comparison, cannabidiol has very weak effects in this regard and negatively modulates that receptor, instead.
Yet cannabidiol reverses some of the brain changes that occur with heroin use, Hurd says, based on her own studies of the compound.

For instance, heroin harms the glutamate transmitter system, which is important for decision-making, cognition and even reward, explains Hurd.
"We found that (cannabidiol) reversed the impairments caused by heroin, for example, on the glutamatergic receptors," Hurd said. Similarly, cannabidiol reversed damage to the cannabinoid receptors themselves caused by heroin, while activating the serotonin system: the neurotransmitter system believed to affect mood and a common target for makers of anti-anxiety and antidepressant medications.

More generally, cannabidiol positively influences our biological systems that are linked to the negative components of addiction, such as anxiety and inhibitory control, Hurd suggests.

"We still haven't figured out how it works," Hurd said. She notes that although cannabidiol is believed to be a "treatment to consider for opioid addiction and other drugs," there aren't a lot of data, especially with regard to its potential effects for cocaine addiction.
Adding to the data is a recent study, funded in part by a company applying to the Canadian government for a license to produce medical cannabis, exploring one possible harm reduction plan: swapping crack cocaine for marijuana.

Studying crack users

Crack cocaine is said to be a low-end incarnation of a rich man's drug. Cocaine, an expensive stimulant made from the leaves of the coca plant native to South America, can be processed to make a cheap crystal rock or "crack." The name refers to the crackling sound the rock makes when heated so its vapors can be inhaled through a pipe, but many users prefer to mix crack with vinegar to form a liquid that can be injected. This form becomes much higher-risk to users who are likely to share needles.
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To explore whether smoking marijuana might reduce crack use, researchers led by M-J Milloy, an infectious disease epidemiologist and research scientist at the BC Centre for Excellence in HIV/AIDS, recruited drug users living within the greater Vancouver area of British Columbia.
Milloy and his colleagues measured and analyzed how frequently 124 drug users smoked or injected crack before, during and after a period of cannabis use, based on their own self-reports.
Crack use did not decrease during the period when participants intentionally self-medicated with cannabis, compared with the time before trying marijuana.

Afterward, crack use decreased significantly, with participants reporting using it on average about half as often as before the intervention.
"We certainly have no illusions that this is the final word on the matter. Indeed, I think what it really is, it may be a first step," Milloy said of his study, which was recently published in the journal Addictive Behaviors. "So what we hope is that further study will let us know if it is in fact an effective substitution treatment for crack cocaine use disorder. To that end, we are putting together a clinical trial, which we hope will better test the hypothesis that cannabis could be useful to people who are suffering from this disorder."

Although the Vancouver study did not investigate the brain science to explain how marijuana might have this effect, Milloy and his co-authors say that emerging data "provide biological plausibility" for the findings.

They reference animal studies demonstrating that THC and cannabidiol may help eliminate cocaine-craving and heroin-seeking behaviors. One study in rodents showed cannabidiol to disrupt the reconsolidation of cocaine- and opioid-related memory, while findings from human trials suggest that high doses of cannabidiol effectively decreased cravings and anxiety among heroin-dependent people.

Volkow believes the Vancouver study result, showing that smoking marijuana reduced use of cocaine (though without producing abstinence), is an "interesting finding that cannot be ignored."

'Be yelled at for 30 days'
Generally, she says, not a lot of study has been done in the area of swapping cannabis for cocaine, and she emphasizes the need to determine whether the result can be replicated and studied even more extensively "under a clinical trial-type design, so you can actually document that cannabinoids can decrease consumption of cocaine."

"There have been a couple of papers that have reported actually some beneficial effects of marijuana smoking and the use of other drugs, but there also was one other paper that reported the opposite," Volkow said.

That paper found, "an increase instead of a reduction in the severity of cocaine withdrawal symptoms," and concluded, "worse detoxification treatment response."

Other studies have also shown that long-term dependence on marijuana may intensify cocaine cravings while increasing the risk of relapse.

To remedy the lack of scientific evidence, the National Institute of Drug Abuse is funding projects investigating synthetic THC for treatment of substance use disorder and providing grants for other projects testing cannabidiol for the treatment of methamphetamine use disorder and relapse prevention. The institute is also looking at the endocannabinoid system as a potential therapy for alcohol use disorder and opioid withdrawal.

In the meantime, the picture is not always rosy in the field of addiction.

"The paradigm as it is now is, wait until it's a crisis and then be yelled at for 30 days, and then you're never supposed to do it again," Schrank said.

Abstinence is "a hard thing for people to do, and I don't know that we give people enough space to grow and develop," he said. "Most people coming off crack or heroin would want the insulation of some kind of feeling change."

Although most people in the treatment world would say an addicted client who swapped harder drugs for pot has a relapse and not recovery, Schrank said, "to me, if somebody was using heroin and now they're using cannabis, that's a major victory."

"If you smoke the wrong rock of crack, your heart stops," he said. "It's very, very, very dangerous."

"I've had so many clients who were in treatment and seemingly doing well, and then they dropped dead," Schrank said. "If rehab worked so well, why is the success rate like 5%? We're definitely doing something wrong."

If liberals policies worked so well, why are there more addicts than ever before?
 

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Oh look. Something we were told would never happen even though it's completely predictable.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...7c8a68c1a66_story.html?utm_term=.59461892d52d

2015 was the first time that drug use was more prevalent than alcohol use.

Though the dates when each state passed a law vary, that period coincided with more-permissive laws covering the use of marijuana.

yep, be on the lookout for poor drivers....and drug use doesnt hurt anyone but the user, right?
 

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US opioid epidemic hits Staten Island funeral homes hard, director turns activist

When Kevin Moran speaks to young people, he unscrolls about a dozen letter-size papers taped together and holds them squarely in front of their eyes.

They are death certificates of people their age who accidently overdosed on opioids, or consumed some from a tainted batch, and ended up at the funeral home he directs.

"Don’t do it!" Moran yelled out at the audience in one of his talks last year. "I don’t want to see you in my funeral home! I’m here for one reason, to scare the living crap out of you."


"If you want to come by the funeral home when I have a drug overdose case, I’ll bring you...I’ll show you what the person looks like and I’ll show you what the family goes through, and you watch it, then tell you me you want to do it."

The toll of the opioid addiction epidemic that has gripped communities across the United States began making itself felt in Staten Island about three years ago, when the bodies of people barely old enough to drive or buy a beer began appearing in larger and larger numbers at the John Vincent Scalia Home for Funerals in this New York City borough, where many residents work in public service jobs.

In 2014, the casualties of opioid addiction at the funeral home began appearing at a rate of one every four to six weeks. Every one of Staten Island’s 13 funeral homes had a similar experience. Last year, accidental overdoses in Staten Island accounted for the deaths of more than 100 people, a jump of 35 percent over 2015, according to health officials.

Nationwide, 52,404 people died from a drug overdose, up from 47,055 in 2014, according to the Centers for Disease Control. A majority, 63 percent, of the deaths involved opioids.

Even for Moran, a veteran in an emotionally arduous business that requires extraordinary mettle, the steady stream of so many lives cut short was too much to bear.



It's a father missing the opportunity to walk his daughter down the aisle, a graduation. They are avoidable deaths.
- Kevin Moran, funeral director, speaking about the opioid epidemic

“I’m a parent, and when I see another parent hurting over a death like this, it tears me apart,” Moran says, eyes downcast. "The very fabric of me is just torn apart."

Wakes for people who have lived a long life are filled with mourners reflecting on memories of special occasions, of the deceased person's milestones. But at these wakes for younger people, the thoughts are about what could have been.

"It's a father missing the opportunity to walk his daughter down the aisle, a graduation that didn't happen," Moran says. “The world is not designed … for parents to bury their children. They don’t have to happen. They are avoidable deaths.”

Moran decided he could not just watch as the victims of the epidemic were carried one after another into the John Vincent Scalia Home for Funerals. He would make the last chapter – the avoidable chapter – real for those who could still be saved from the same fate. Moran became an activist, speaking to groups, especially young adults, about the dangers of opioids and the devastation it brings to those they love.

Part of his effort includes speaking on a regular basis at opioid addiction support meetings organized by a Staten Island nurse, Alicia Reddy, who founded a program called Addiction Angel.

Hundreds attend. They listen to recovering addicts as well as relatives of people who died of accidental overdoses.

That is one of the places where Moran takes the pile of death certificates to drive home the point about where the dangerous path of opioid addiction often ends.



When you lose a child to a drug overdose...the emotions that are churned up are unlike any other.
- Kevin Moran, funeral director

“Instead of holding the high school diploma for their child, parents are being given their death certificates,” Moran says, his face pained. “We do things when we are 17 or 18 without any reservations or fears. We think we are immune.”

And so he'll do whatever it takes to lull people out of their complacency, their denial -- whether that means describing in detail the young mother who overdosed and was found dead with the needle still in her arm and her newborn baby on her chest. Or whether he has to tell them about the people whose names are on the death certificates he holds -- the coach, the lawyer, the accountant, the mother, the father.

"When Kevin speaks, it's impactful," Reddy says. "He's been in schools and some kids will be seated in the back, talking to each other and he'll scream at them" to listen.

Moran has no qualms about taking his warning to people he sees abusing drugs. He says, in bewilderment, that he’s even seen the drugs being taken in the parking lot of the funeral home, by friends and acquaintances attending the wake of someone who has died from an accidental overdose.

“The drug epidemic is so different than any other,” Moran says in an interview with Fox News. “When you lose a child to a drug overdose, the heroin or the pills, the emotions that are churned up are unlike any other.”

“Most of the children who have passed started after being in a car accident, or getting a sport injury, and were prescribed painkillers by a doctor” and got hooked, Moran says.

He knows that when properly taken, opioids make a life-changing difference for people who suffer debilitating and chronic pain.

“Percocet can be a blessing when you’re in pain,” Moran says.

But there is no escaping the connection he makes between opioids and the young bodies that have filled funeral homes and cemeteries in the borough. And so Moran, who has six herniated disks, said he refuses to take painkillers for relief.

Percocet can be a blessing when you're in pain.
- Kevin Moran, funeral director

The toll of the epidemic has claimed people known to Moran – the children of friends and acquaintances, and even of a part-time employee.

“His son passed away on a Friday night in his friend’s apartment,” Moran says of his employee. The substance of the drug he consumed was so potent, he said, that it quickly decomposed his body, making it impossible to prepare the body for a funeral or burial.

“I had to call the father, my employee, and tell him that it was undoable,” he says.

His adult daughters, who are millennials, are healthy and thriving.

“I’m very lucky that they’re OK,” Moran says.

But he will not allow himself to take comfort.

“That could all change tomorrow,” he says.

“Most of the people that are victims of this scourge are really good decent kids who come from decent families,” Moran says. “Their father could be a police officer, their father could be a fireman, their mother could be a nurse or school teacher.”

“It could be the wealthiest kid and the poorest kid, and the drugs don't care.”
 

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Death Race: Florida First Responders Rush From One Overdose to the Next

Every Friday afternoon, the hardworking men and women of Delray Beach Fire Rescue line up their gleaming red trucks, strap on their boots, and check their supplies of naloxone, the overdose reversal drug. These days they can barely keep it in stock.

In this small city at the heart of Florida's opioid crisis, Friday night means overdoses.

"The overdoses are everywhere," said Delray Beach firefighter Kris Scheid. "It doesn't matter what neighborhood, there's gonna be an overdose."

Scheid isn't exaggerating. On a recent Friday evening, before the sun had even set, Fire Rescue would respond to three overdoses in less than two hours.

At 6:19 pm, Fire Chief Todd Lynch saw an emergency call appear in pink on the screen of the laptop bolted to the dash of his vehicle.

"That's an overdose," said Lynch. He turned on his siren and rushed south, flying past palm trees, to an industrial pocket of the city.

Delray Beach police, in black uniforms and flak jackets, had beat Lynch to the scene. They stood around a silver Mercedes stopped behind a Dumpster, a young man with a goatee and a white tee shirt unconscious behind the wheel. In the car console was a torn envelope that once held a paycheck.

The man had overdosed next door to Royal Life Recovery, a drug treatment center. The center's employees had watched him drive into a telephone pole, reverse, and stop. A Royal employee was the first to arrive, and like many in the recovery business, he came prepared with naloxone, also known as Narcan. But despite several blasts of Narcan spray up his nose, the driver didn't wake.

When the rescue truck arrived, his head was hanging back over the headrest and his mouth was open. The responders moved quickly, pulling his limp body from the front seat. He looked like a lost cause. But thanks to the naloxone sprayed up his nose, he had a pulse. As Fire Rescue hefted the gurney into the rescue truck, he began to stir.

Whether sprayed into the nose, injected in a vein or, in the most desperate cases, drilled straight into the bone, naloxone's sudden impact can be eerie to witness. Sometimes the all-but-dead sit upright, disoriented and ill, but alive.

And in pain. Naloxone blocks the body's opioid receptors, which can trigger immediate and painful withdrawal. It's not unusual for those who have just been saved to quickly use again to keep from getting dope sick. And so the cycle starts over.

As the rescue truck carted the Mercedes driver away, Lynch's dashboard lit up again — an overdose at a Shell gas station three miles east. A different Fire Rescue team took the call.

There were more than 4,600 overdoses in Palm Beach County last year. Delray Beach accounted for 600, even though its 66,000 residents make up less than 5 percent of the county's population. Delray's responders find people who have overdosed in restaurant bathrooms and on park benches, in private homes and while driving through busy intersections.

Towns across the U.S. have been gripped by the opioid epidemic. In 2015, drug overdoses, most due to heroin or opioid pills, killed more than 52,000 Americans. And addiction has become more deadly as potent synthetic opioids like fentanyl have become widespread.

The impact is being felt from wealthy Chicago suburbs to rural West Virginia to New York City. But officials in Delray Beach say the toll is especially heavy in their town because so many of the young people addicted in those faraway places come to Florida looking for help.

South Florida has long been a destination for people seeking drug treatment, with Delray Beach a common landing spot. But in the past few years, recovery has become big business — a $1 billion industry, according to a tally by the Palm Beach Post. There are more than 320 licensed drug treatment centers in South Florida, most in Palm Beach County. Addicts attending outpatient treatment generally live in the hundreds of "sober homes," or halfway houses, scattered throughout these beachside communities.

The good homes create accountability, structure, and a supportive community to help people stay clean. The bad are little more than flophouses that use their residents as a meal ticket. Unscrupulous operators take illegal kickbacks from the treatment centers for sending residents there, then evict struggling addicts when their insurance runs out. They often turn a blind eye while addicts use.

Chief Lynch said it's not unusual for his team to respond to a sober home where multiple young people have overdosed on the same batch of drugs. "Somebody will have called 911 — but there's nobody there that's supervising or monitoring them," he said.

Delray Beach estimates the city spent some $3 million responding to overdoses last year, many at or near sober homes. When Delray Beach residents used to find someone unconscious, they'd call 911 to say someone fainted, said Interim City Manager Neal de Jesus. "If they find somebody unconscious now, they call in and say, 'Somebody overdosed.'"

Sometimes it takes as many as seven Fire Rescue personnel to respond to one opioid case, from revival to dropping the patient at a hospital. On a normal day, the department might respond to four. When a bad batch of heroin comes out, Fire Rescue can handle a dozen in a single shift.

De Jesus, who took a break from his role as fire chief to step in as city manager, worries about the toll the crisis is taking on his community — and on the first responders on the front lines of this crisis.

"They're seeing more deaths that I've seen in my 34-year career," said de Jesus. Rookie responders have now become accustomed to carrying out bodies of people in their mid 20s, people the same age as they are.

He worries that they will start to think these deaths are normal, or become jaded after reviving someone in the morning only to revive them again that night.

Responders said no matter how many calls they get, some cases are hard to shake.

Friday night's first call had been a woman who had overdosed but was still conscious.

When Lynch arrived, the middle-aged woman, wearing shorts and a tanktop over her leathery tan skin, was already surrounded by his responders.

"Do you know what city you're in?" one asked.

"Delray Beach, Florida," she answered dreamily.

"Do you know what year it is?"

She laughed. "2017"

The responders helped the woman stand, guiding her onto the gurney. She babbled as they slid her into the back of the boxy rescue truck. Then she went silent. The overdose had begun to shut down her body.

Their blue-gloved hands worked efficiently. They pulled out a syringe of naloxone and shot the reversal drug into her arm. Another life saved. Then the IV went in. A second set of hands covered her mouth with an oxygen mask. A third responder looked into her pinpoint pupils.

"You got to tell me what you took today, I just want to help you," he said. "What drug did you take today?"

"I snorted," she answered.

"Cocaine?" he asked.

"Heroin," she said.

The truck pulled out, sirens blaring, toward the emergency room. Lynch doubted she'd stay long. Addicts often sign themselves out against medical advice within a few minutes of arriving. And if the IV is still in their arms, it makes it easy to get high again.

"She will be out of the hospital before they're done with their paperwork," said Lynch. "Once they wheel her into the hospital she'll get off the stretcher and walk out."
 

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Ohio councilman would let repeat overdose victims die to save money

An Ohio city is considering whether dispatchers should send ambulances to every overdose call they get, after the number of overdoses this year has already exceeded last year’s total.

Dan Picard, a Middletown city councilman, proposed a “three strikes” limit for opioid addicts after the number of overdoses jumped from 532 last year to 577 so far this year, including 51 deaths, compared to 74 in all of 2016, reported the Journal-News.

“I want to send a message to the world that you don’t want to come to Middletown to overdose because someone might not come with Narcan and save your life,” Picard said. “We need to put a fear about overdosing in Middletown.”

The 61-year-old Picard, who isn’t seeking re-election, suggested issuing a court summons to overdose victims and require them to complete community service to work off the cost of their emergency medical services call and a dose of the life-saving Narcan drug.

If they fail to do so following two overdoses, 911 dispatchers could refuse to send help on their third call.

“If the dispatcher determines that the person who’s overdosed is someone who’s been part of the program for two previous overdoses and has not completed the community service and has not cooperated in the program, then we wouldn’t dispatch,” Picard told WLWT-TV.

The city councilman pointed out that cancer patients don’t get free chemotherapy, and he said patients suffering heart attacks don’t get free bypass surgery on an EMS run.

The city budgeted $10,000 this year for Narcan, which revives overdose patients, but is on pace to spend $100,000 on the drug.

The fire chief said he understood Picard’s frustration, but the state law requires first responders to administer Narcan to overdose patients, and he pointed out that medics took an oath to care for those who are hurt, sick or injured — regardless of the cost.

“This is our standing order,” said Fire Chief Paul Lolli. “Our guys operate under standing orders and protocols set by the medical director. Unless directed otherwise, that’s what we have to do.”

First responders in southwest Ohio, which has been hit hard by the opioid epidemic, are suffering compassion fatigue from the frequency of overdose calls, reported the Cincinnati Enquirer.

“The situations that we’re coming upon have not been dealt with before,” said Lt. John Williams, of the Cincinnati Fire Department.

First responders are themselves in danger from overdosing on powerful synthetic opioids they may come into contact with, and they must remain hyper-vigilant about blood spatter and needle sticks to avoid hepatitis C and other blood-borne illness.

The state’s Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse received $26 million in grant money, and some of that money will go toward helping first responders deal with the trauma they experience on the job.

Picard admits his proposal wouldn’t solve the city’s drug problem.

“We’ve got to do what we’ve got to do to maintain our financial security, and this is just costing us too much money,” Picard said.

The fire department is applying for grants and accepting donations to pay for Narcan.

The city manager declined to comment on Picard’s proposal until the city’s legal department could review it.

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I'm not sure how much good releasing pictures does, but seeing it firsthand is definitely a deterrent.

Source: took the kids on a nice ride downtown via public transportation.
 

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If the normal use of a substance causes one to lose control of his faculties, then the substance should not be legal for normal use, if not illegal altogether.

For example, neither alcohol nor tobacco would be illegal, because billions of people can have a drink and not get drunk, and I've never heard of anyone getting losing control of their faculties chewing or smoking tobacco, however, drugs such as cocaine​ and heroin produce an instant high, and most times cause the user to almost instantly lose most or all control of his body.

Pot (or weed, whichever you prefer) should at the very least be a highly controlled substance, because of it's medicinal properties. However, self medication and recreational pot should be illegal. There are forms of pot that don't have as much THC in them, and those would be used for medical purposes.

Not only marijuana (including its THC component), but also even the most mind-altering drugs, like opiates, should be available as strictly controlled substances carefully and mercifully*prescribed*for medical conditions. Normal use, such as recreational drugs and self-medicating (with controlled substances) should be illegal, and should not be the standard treatment for aches and pains, but should be used as a sort of last resort, prescribed with careful consideration of the risks involved.
 

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If the normal use of a substance causes one to lose control of his faculties, then the substance should not be legal for normal use, if not illegal altogether.

For example, neither alcohol nor tobacco would be illegal, because billions of people can have a drink and not get drunk, and I've never heard of anyone getting losing control of their faculties chewing or smoking tobacco, however, drugs such as cocaine​ and heroin produce an instant high, and most times cause the user to almost instantly lose most or all control of his body.

Pot (or weed, whichever you prefer) should at the very least be a highly controlled substance, because of it's medicinal properties. However, self medication and recreational pot should be illegal. There are forms of pot that don't have as much THC in them, and those would be used for medical purposes.

Not only marijuana (including its THC component), but also even the most mind-altering drugs, like opiates, should be available as strictly controlled substances carefully and mercifully*prescribed*for medical conditions. Normal use, such as recreational drugs and self-medicating (with controlled substances) should be illegal, and should not be the standard treatment for aches and pains, but should be used as a sort of last resort, prescribed with careful consideration of the risks involved.

Thanks, but the question i was asking was based on the article, do you think there should be a limit to how many times an addict is revived by ems/hospitals/officials as suggested in the article?
 

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Thanks, but the question i was asking was based on the article, do you think there should be a limit to how many times an addict is revived by ems/hospitals/officials as suggested in the article?
That's like asking how many and which kind of diamonds should a thief steal from the jewelry store. It's irrelevant because theft is wrong.

If someone loses control of their faculties, they should be punished as a danger to society, and as a result, the punishment would be a deterrent to people getting to the point that they need to be revived, and a doctor who would prescribe the drugs would not intentionally prescribe more than is safe/healthy for the patient.

The question you ask about the article only addresses the symptoms of a problem, not the problem itself.
 

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Drug users commit a crime when they take someone's prescription, when they buy any illicit drug. They cause their own problems! They know better, unless they are brain dead idiots. There is no legitimate excuse.
 

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No, sure enough someone would make a mistake on the identity of the victim.

Should taxpayers be on the hook to keep reviving the addicts, time after time, many of which when saved from overdose, walk right back out of the hospital signing themselves out, and shoot up again right away.

Many little towns up north are going bankrupt over this issue.
 

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Should taxpayers be on the hook to keep reviving the addicts, time after time, many of which when saved from overdose, walk right back out of the hospital signing themselves out, and shoot up again right away.

Many little towns up north are going bankrupt over this issue.

It sucks, but I don't believe failure to aid is the answer.
 

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Should taxpayers be on the hook to keep reviving the addicts, time after time, many of which when saved from overdose, walk right back out of the hospital signing themselves out, and shoot up again right away.

Many little towns up north are going bankrupt over this issue.
Another irrelevant question. All citizens should pay taxes, and the government should use that money to fund itself to be able to perform its just functions.

Emergency services do not include catering to addicts. They should be punished for being an unnecessary risk to society.

It should be illegal to be high (intoxicated).
Any substance should be controlled if its normal use makes one high.
 

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Another irrelevant question. All citizens should pay taxes, and the government should use that money to fund itself to be able to perform its just functions.

Emergency services do not include catering to addicts. They should be punished for being an unnecessary risk to society.

It should be illegal to be high (intoxicated).
Any substance should be controlled if its normal use makes one high.

Heroin use is illegal, abusing prescription drugs/getting them illegitimately is illegal already.
 
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