Take away Americans guns
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glorydaz
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No, the problem is the dims refuse to make sure those on the no fly lists have a way to get off them. It's a matter of due process.
glorydaz
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It's easy to get on the no fly lists......the problem is due process (getting off them) so we're not all placed on them according to the liberal whims of those who put people on the lists. This is a no-brainer you libs REFUSE to acknowledge.
I'm sure that those individuals on the FBI's "no-fly" list will be forever grateful to conservatives like "Glorydaz" and the NRA for defending their 2nd Amendment rights to purchase firearms legally - including assault rifles.
The rest of the US electorate, however, may not be quite so understanding as to why those individuals identified as too dangerous to be allowed to fly in the air, are to be given a blank check by Republican legislators to buy weapons to endanger the safety of those same Americans on the ground!
You are ruled by fear, and you and others like you are trying to spread your gospel of fear.
No thanks. :down:
He did not have an automatic weapon. 7 round magazines are easy to change quickly by the way.
There are plenty of people in the THEY camp. You are either not telling the truth or your head is in the sand!
There are plenty who would if they felt they could!
That's an ironic comment given that the NRA agenda is driven by a "siege" mentality that is based on FEAR!
- FEAR of government regulation
- FEAR of a dictatorial regime taking power
- FEAR of crime
- FEAR of new immigrants
- FEAR of all Moslems
- FEAR of mass klilings
- FEAR of those with a darker skin color
- FEAR of terrorists
- FEAR of one's neighbor
- FEAR of change
CherubRam
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I honesty believe that most people are not capable of making an informed decision. A person could do the same harm with four 6 gun pistols. As a matter of fact, a high caliber pistol is more deadly than a mini 14 or AR-15.
CherubRam
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Only fools have no fear. Really.
They are, but honestly, so are 20-rounders. And even peaceful law abiding people typically shoot more at the range while practicing, when they're shooting 20-rounders instead of 7-rounders.
Lord, save us: we perish. 26 And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.
:AMR: It's like, the opposite, man. Those anti-NRAer's have that mentality. How will we defend ourselves against any of the below if we're disarmed and only the government and police are armed? Right, siege. We can't leave and they defend the borders, because we're unarmed. Plus, we don't let anybody in. Oh wait, that's what we're already doing! Oh! Hey, you guys, you already won the war, we already lost. We are free to be armed, but since such a tiny fraction of us are responsible enough to exercise that right, and we typically have to hide that we're exercising that right from you types, it looks like Europe over here, except it's like Europe but there are a lot of people who are carrying a concealed weapon (CCW). When a gun-person shows up in Europe there's literally an orders of magnitude smaller chance that it's going to end well compared with over here.
For some reason it still happens in Europe BTW. Europe has a ban-like policy on firearms and they have mass shootings, we have relative freedom in regard to firearms and we have mass shootings.
Obviously it's not the laws that need changing. To some of us. To you and your ilk, you're blind as bats.
I fear none of those. You? Be honest.
glorydaz
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Typical liberal logic. I have no problem putting terrorists and lunatics on a no fly list. I DO have a problem with how those lists are managed. Who puts people on those lists? How can the innocent be removed from the list? You act like you haven't heard of reporters and senators who have gotten on the lists and can't get removed from them. Of course you can just keep parroting the lies as if they were truths....all you libs do that. :sigh:
Don't forget the ACLU you effete little toad. :yawn:
https://www.aclu.org/blog/washingto...fair-watchlists-not-way-regulate-guns-america
lain: Protip: If the ACLU (An organization which is no friend of the NRA or it's membership.)and NRA are both on the same side there is a pretty good chance you are embarrassingly wrong. :think: Soooo...Since you are so concerned that the safety of "The Rest Of The Electorate" is being endangered; it seems to me that if those individuals on the list are so dangerous that their right of due process needs to be violated to protect us from a terrorist attack wouldn't it be preferable to just deport them?...It's pretty easy to strike a match or half a dozen other ways one can kill mass amounts of people (just off the top of my head). Heck....Most of them aren't even american citizens.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/20/fbi-no-fly-list-revealed-81k-names-fewer-1k-us/
Sound good to you?....I mean, after all, if it saves the life of one child..etc...etc.
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CherubRam
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[FONT="]Ignorance of law excuses no one[/FONT]
[FONT="]"ignorance of law excuses no one" is a legal principle holding that a person who is unaware of a law may not escape liability for violating that law merely because they are unaware of what it is.[/FONT]
[FONT="]A study from the Brookings Institution Center on Urban and Metropolitan Policy counts about 300 "relevant federal and state laws regarding the manufacture, design, sale, purchase, or possession of guns." The key word here is "relevant." [/FONT]
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[FONT="]The study does not include a tally of local gun laws. There are a multitude of laws governing the use and ownership of guns. So how many laws are there? No one knows. [/FONT]
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[FONT="]And how many laws are there in America? Again, no one knows. By the 1980s, there were 50 volumes of more than 23,000 pages of laws.[/FONT]
[FONT="]"ignorance of law excuses no one" is a legal principle holding that a person who is unaware of a law may not escape liability for violating that law merely because they are unaware of what it is.[/FONT]
[FONT="]A study from the Brookings Institution Center on Urban and Metropolitan Policy counts about 300 "relevant federal and state laws regarding the manufacture, design, sale, purchase, or possession of guns." The key word here is "relevant." [/FONT]
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[FONT="]The study does not include a tally of local gun laws. There are a multitude of laws governing the use and ownership of guns. So how many laws are there? No one knows. [/FONT]
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[FONT="]And how many laws are there in America? Again, no one knows. By the 1980s, there were 50 volumes of more than 23,000 pages of laws.[/FONT]
Right-wingers in America always mistake gun control for gun confiscation . And anyway , just how many guns has the "tyrant " Obama confiscated so far after eight years , with only half a year left in office ? NOT A SINGLE ONE !!! And how many will Hillary Clinton confiscate if she is elected this November? No more than Obama .
Right-wingers are dupes of the worst terrorist organization in America, the NRA , which has been spreading the ridiculous notion that any attempt to control guns for safety is actually a sinister liberal "commie pinko " plot to take over America by banning guns and confiscating them .
These criminals have blood on their hands ! Many GOP members of congress are in their pay, and they have been bribed to block all efforts to control guns for safety .
No law-abiding citizen who owns guns and uses them for hunting etc needs o fear gun control laws .
The European countries and Japan have strict gun control laws ,much much stricter than those in America, and their rates of violence and murder from guns are only a tiny fraction of ours.
No, gun control won't prevent all gun deaths , but if the NRA and the GOP did not block it, we would have much lower rates of gun violence in America.
Right-wingers are dupes of the worst terrorist organization in America, the NRA , which has been spreading the ridiculous notion that any attempt to control guns for safety is actually a sinister liberal "commie pinko " plot to take over America by banning guns and confiscating them .
These criminals have blood on their hands ! Many GOP members of congress are in their pay, and they have been bribed to block all efforts to control guns for safety .
No law-abiding citizen who owns guns and uses them for hunting etc needs o fear gun control laws .
The European countries and Japan have strict gun control laws ,much much stricter than those in America, and their rates of violence and murder from guns are only a tiny fraction of ours.
No, gun control won't prevent all gun deaths , but if the NRA and the GOP did not block it, we would have much lower rates of gun violence in America.
Don't forget the ACLU you effete little toad. :yawn:
https://www.aclu.org/blog/washingto...fair-watchlists-not-way-regulate-guns-america
:think: Soooo...Since you are so concerned that the safety of "The Rest Of The Electorate" is being endangered; it seems to me that if those individuals on the list are so dangerous that their right of due process needs to be violated to protect us from a terrorist attack wouldn't it be preferable to just deport them?...It's pretty easy to strike a match or half a dozen other ways one can kill mass amounts of people (just off the top of my head). Heck....Most of them aren't even american citizens.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/20/fbi-no-fly-list-revealed-81k-names-fewer-1k-us/
Sound good to you?....I mean, after all, if it saves the life of one child..etc...etc.
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
- Dwight D. Eisenhower (34th President of the United States)
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