commonsense
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So what you're saying is that if the murderer of Renee Good had faced consequences there's a good chance that the murderers of Alex Pretti would not have been emboldened to commit murder?
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Red herrings will get you nowhere.
That was a terrible joke. I don't recommend becoming a comedian.
Now answer my question:
... I could continue this analogy, but maybe you can see where I'm going with this.
So again, I ask, if we allow one person to get away with a crime, what does it teach him and other (would-be) criminals?
What does it do to the foundations of civilized society?
When consequences for actions are removed, how does it affect those around criminals?
In gang-infested areas where enforcement of the law is more of a suggestion than a requirement, is it more or less common for there to be corruption of the people not in gangs? Do the regular folk tend to obey the gangs more than the law of the land?
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I'm not sure they're pretending.
Most of them are pretty darned retarded
And to further illustrate my point:
| YOU’RE NOT GONNA BELIEVE THIS ONE OUT OF ALAMEDA… OF COURSE THE JUDGE DID THIS California strikes again. An Alameda County judge just ruled that Cedric Irving Jr. the man who admitted to the targeted shooting murder of legendary East Bay football coach John Beam (featured in the Netflix documentary Last Chance U) inside his office at Laney College last November is mentally incompetent to stand trial. After four psych evals, the judge says he needs mental health treatment instead of facing a jury for murder. Coach Beam is gone. The killer confessed. And California’s justice system just hits pause. |
VladtheDestroyer
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What happens is gangsters will get kids to murder and traffic drugs for them instead. It's easy for them to target kids these days. Why do you think so many juveniles in Chicago are walking around with machine guns now? It's WAY harder to buy a gun on the streets now than it was 30 years ago. But they are everywhere now. The reason for this is that the gangsters who are selling guns on black market now are only supplying them now to the people they know are going to be killing the people they want to have killed. Street gang members (kids) who are protecting a "territory" where the is a stash house that's involved with a certain cartel. Things like that.
Many years ago, one of my family members was caught in one of the largest methamphetamine busts in the entire US. The street value of the drugs he got caught with is back then, is almost nothing when compared to what many juveniles get caught dealing and trafficking today. Because it not hard these days, to take a kid and convince him that his entire life is worthless and that the only chance he has is to work for a mafia or drug cartel. It's easy to do that. And it's easy to find parents who will let their kids get involved with things like that because they get money and they know their child isn't going to be punished for it. Maybe a few years in juvenile detention and that's it. But by then, their lives are destroyed. And they die the on the streets while the gangsters that recruited them, die of old age. The only people I grew up with that made it out of this lifestyle became born again Christians. Jesus was the only person that could save them. The rest are dead or serving life in prison. That is reality.
So I was lucky that when I was young, someone who hardly even knew me, took the time to tell me something about God's Word. Even though I was just young punk who was just speaking foolishness at the time. I will never forget that. It is an amazing thing that I did not deserve.
@JudgeRightly comments are spot on. He knows exactly what he is talking about. You don't have to grow up with criminal gangs to know how the world works. The world works the way God says it will in the Bible. It is ridiculous for you to try to deny this.
Not to diminish your point at all, but this is something I wasn't even considering!
My main point is that it, to answer the question I've been harrying Arthur with for the last several pages of this thread, teaches men that they can get away with things normally deemed wrong/immoral/illegal, leading to the collapse of society as a whole.
This process does not happen immediately, but can take decades.
We already see evidence of it in multiple countries, particularly Britain, where rape gangs run rampant and murders by knife are a common occurrence (and that's not even getting into WHO is committing these crimes).
But yes, when letal consequences are not enforced equally for everyone, it incentivizes the ones who would normally commit the crimes to use the ones who are perceptively exempt from the consequences to commit heinous acts, because then the masterminds behind the crime can more effectively get away with their evildoing, and even if the one they used gets caught, they're not likely to be punished, and this furthers the disease of corruption.