many books were written before the church started
but
the church decided which ones would be included in the bible you use today
ECT The NT Church began at Pentecost.
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many books were written before the church started
but
the church decided which ones would be included in the bible you use today
SaulToPaul 2
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People before your church started already knew what was scripture.
SaulToPaul 2
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Does your church look like the one in Acts?
Saul To Paul calls that slander in a neg rep, because he can not defend it, yet he backs up the greatest real slanderer of all time, John W.
Saul To Paul along with his mate John W are perfect examples of Saul before he became Paul.
Saul was not a man of the Spirit, nor is John W or poster Saul to Paul.
The rejection of acts 2:38 is the problem. They do not want to be changed in the inward man by the Spirit of God and join with all of the apostles and prophets and the thousands who were at the first.
They are still in their sins along with many others here.
MADists do not throw their lot in with anyone, never did, which is why they claim none else ever did either, to justify their own failure to join the saints.
Act 22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, (Paul) that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
Act 22:15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Just believing they have forgiveness of sin, does not make it so.
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I guess that it's far too difficult for you to understand that what TWO devout Jews did before Paul received his revelation from the Lord of the dispensation of the grace of God was going to be according to OLD information (i.e., the law of Moses).
Act 22:12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,
So you suggest Paul was baptized under the law?
Ananias had to have been a member of Christ's Church by then and connected to all the Apostles and Prophets and believers of the time.
It should be obvious that Paul obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul himself taught the Ephesians to obey--
Act 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
Act 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Act 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
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The were NOT REBAPTIZED. That is a complete misunderstanding of what Paul was saying. With the verse "When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.", Paul was talking about the results of JOHN's speaking to HIS listeners as Paul was RECOUNTING what happened during JOHN's ministry.
Act 19:1-8 KJV And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, (2) He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. (3) And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. (4) Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. (5) When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. (6) And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. (7) And all the men were about twelve. (8) And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.
The THEY in verse 5 refers to JOHN'S LISTENERS and not those that Paul was speaking to. There was NO REBAPTISM.
Nice try, but at least you tried.
Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
John never baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
John only baptized the once of any person who came to him.
There were two crossings of water to enter the Kingdom (the land) .
John was as Moses was in his baptism of repentance.
Except in the case of baptizing Jesus which was as Israel crossing Jordan and the walls of Jericho came down as Jesus ministry began.
AS also occurred from Pentecost onward throughout the whole world, until much of (not all) the descendants of the church fell away and Jericho was built again, designed to keep people out of the Kingdom of God.
It began with the RCC and continues with MAD and the like.
1Ki 16:33 And Ahab made a grove; and Ahab did more to provoke the LORD God of Israel to anger than all the kings of Israel that were before him.
1Ki 16:34 In his days did Hiel the Bethelite build Jericho: he laid the foundation thereof in Abiram his firstborn, and set up the gates thereof in his youngest son Segub, according to the word of the LORD, which he spake by Joshua the son of Nun.
Luk 18:35 And it came to pass, that as he was come nigh unto Jericho, a certain blind man sat by the way side begging:
Luk 18:36 And hearing the multitude pass by, he asked what it meant.
Luk 18:37 And they told him, that Jesus of Nazareth passeth by.
Luk 18:38 And he cried, saying, Jesus, thou Son of David, have mercy on me.
Luk 18:39 And they which went before rebuked him,
Hi , and RD has you and you do not even see it , for you are KJV -ONLY INFANT reader !!
Most see the Greek word BAPTIZO , and say , " it is WATER " , but it is NOT !!
John the Baptist did Water Baptize !!
These 12 were BAPTIZO / INTO the name of Lord Jesus and as Paul LAID his hands upon the them ( NO WATER ) the Holy Spirit came upon them and they SPOKE in Langauges and were Prophesying AS THEY DID AT PENTECOST !!:madmad::madmad:
DAN P
I wonder why that is? Oh, I think I know!
Have you given ALL you have yet?
Tell ya what! Purchase some $10.00 grocery store gift cards, some
small inexpensive New Testament Bibles, and some nice "Grace
Message" tracts, and some small plastic bags! Place the Bible,
the gift card, and the tract in the plastic bag, and as you're
driving around town and see a "Homeless poor person" stop
and hand them one of these little bags! I've done it! Why
everybody doesn't do it, is beyond me?
I've suggested it on TOL before, and NOBODY is interested!
Some folks might rationalize that, "Well, those poor
people are just drunks or dope addicts, so why bother?"
It's not for us to pre-judge the poor! It's our duty to help the
poor! What they do with the plastic bag is their business! Why
not give it a chance? I carry some pre-packed bags in my car!
How about some Scripture pertaining to the "Dispensation of Grace?"
How about some Scriptures pertaining to the "Body of Christ?"
How about some Scriptures pertaining to "Paul's Gospel?"
andyc
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Nope. I'm still alive.
andyc
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Just do it because it isn't beyond you. Don't worry about anyone else.
Some of you guys; like, perhaps yourself, are all talk and NO action? I think
it's called; "Hypocrisy?" Am I mistaken? I hope so.
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Keeping it all for yourself huh?