The Personal Side of the Homosexual Debate

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Arthur Brain

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For those of you that don't know what Art is talking about: He admitted in another thread that he likes to watch two homosexuals having sex. Today his "thing" is homosexual women.

What I admitted to is one of the most common male heterosexual fantasies about, and it would solely be women that would be of any interest. Unlike yourself I'm actually honest about these things.

Tell us a little bit about your childhood Art. Were you exposed to pornography? (hence his fixation with same sex porno). Inquiring minds need to know so that we can get you the help that you so desperately need.

In my teens I found a stash of soft core magazines, playboy etc. By that point I already knew I found the opposite sex alluring so sorry Connie, no dice. It's hardly a 'fixation' to admit that which I have anyway and was originally brought up in that epic monolith of a soapbox you have going on elsewhere to address your own ignorance and double standards. If there's anyone who needs help - or carting off to the loony bin it's you...
 

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It is not the thread topic, and many other members know all about what i did, where I went to school, and all the rest.

I don't think you're educated on this subject and your posts show it.

I worked a vice detail years ago where I saw homosexual behavior up close. It's an absolutely filthy behavior and those that are involved in it are truly sick in the head. As evil as many of these people are (a good percent are child molesters, because they were molested as a child themselves), we need to show them compassion by legislating righteous laws and get them the help (and in some cases punishment) that they truly need.
 

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In my teens I found a stash of soft core magazines, playboy etc. By that point I already knew I found the opposite sex alluring............

Thanks, you point out one big difference between male sexuality and female sexuality. Men, we women know, like the objective view, while women are more a mixture, from being mainly subjective, to subjective-objective.

Test show women who state 'like his smile' are different from women who say, 'like his hunky shoulders'

We who are not made silly by the nodes of future present, do not mind you men liking our bods, not at all, that is why women clothes shop wear cosmetics, and are so concerned about looking young
 

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For those of you that don't know what Art is talking about: He admitted in another thread that he likes to watch two homosexuals having sex. Today his "thing" is homosexual women.

What I admitted to is one of the most common male heterosexual fantasies about, and it would solely be women that would be of any interest. Unlike yourself I'm actually honest about these things.

You were honest about enjoying watching an act of homosexuality (nothing to be proud of Art).


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Tell us a little bit about your childhood Art. Were you exposed to pornography? (hence his fixation with same sex porno). Inquiring minds need to know so that we can get you the help that you so desperately need.

In my teens I found a stash of soft core magazines, playboy etc. By that point I already knew I found the opposite sex alluring...

As long as the opposite sex was engaging in a act of homosexuality.

We'll get you and others like you the help you need. Hang in there for another decade if you can (the odds aren't in your favor though...see the B.A.R. obits as a reference).
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The 5 solas

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My brain cannot fathom the attraction of a man to another man. It just doesn't. I am put off by the idea of it and now that the media/news/movies, etc allows photographs of men kissing, images of a more sexual nature, I am always repulsed. Having said that, I try to look upon openly homosexual people with the knowledge that, but by the grace of God, there goes I. I prefer to see them as fellow human beings who are lost in their sin, which I think is the correct Christian response.

I think that homosexuality is sin and those who embrace it, need the Saviour, just like any other sin. I do believe there is something deeper here though than *just sin* because the Scriptures do say, 1 Cor 6:18, "Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body." It seems to affect our very inward being, as opposed to something like stealing...but this is true of all sexual immorality, not just homosexual behaviour, although I do believe it is an even further degradation.

Kat, you are very adamant that you cannot imagine yourself attracted to another female, no matter how much exposure you might get to liberal education etc. This is good but we must remember, that we are all not bent or weak towards the same sins. You may never think upon such a union and yet you might struggle with anger, stealing, slander, etc. I guess what I am trying to get at is....it might not always be obvious the reason why. Physically, we are usually attracted to the opposite sex. The size, strength, beauty...all just physical characteristics at first. Once we get to know the person, we find them attractive in other ways. It might not be physical at all, it could be what the gender represents. Safety, care, love, tenderness...things the one who is attracted might be missing in their life and trying to find a replacement for. We do that all the time, and yet know only God Himself can bring the peace and fulfillment we long for. How many have tried to find it in money, education, fame, etc.

I am one of those prissy girls who gets her nails done. I went to a new salon and spa because I had a gift certificate given to me for $200. I took someone with me, another Christian woman. She was booked for pedicure and massage and I was booked for gel nails and my brows. Well....there is a purpose to this story...lol. The person who approached us had long extensions of platinum blonde hair, 4 inch heels, leggings, a tunic styled top with multiple necklaces and bracelets, tons of make up and a very odd voice. My friend looked at me all disturbed and whispered, I am not going with that one. I said, okay.

I sat down across from this person at the manicure station and we started to chat. This *girl* was very well done up, but I knew it was a guy, not just dressed in drag but one in *transition*. The outfit that was worn, one could tell there were feminine endowments, shall we say. It was just a little while in that I noticed cutting scars across the wrists, very light but visible as the cuff bracelets moved to expose them.

Would the right thing to do be call this hurting person names, deride them, demand a different nail technician to care for me, be all offended and leave? I started to pray for this person, even as we sat there getting my nails done. This was a hurting and broken person, one who has clearly struggled for many years and has been brought to this place.

*She* is friends now with me on Facebook. She knows my Christian stance and also realizes that although I do not condone in any way the lifestyle that is being lived out, that I am still sharing the love of Christ. I want this person to know there is forgiveness at the cross, acceptance and unconditional love. That this person (what people would call the unlovable) can be loved by the Lord Jesus Christ.

Since so many on this board are against Calvinism and have preconceived and wrong views of us, I wish to say...I am Reformed, I do not know if this person is elect or not, but I do know it is my honour and duty as a Christian to extend the general gospel call to every human being that I am able to. That is living out the faith. I tell this story not to bring any glory to myself...but rather, I hope it illustrates what we can and should do as Believers. No matter how we *feel* about the sin, we are still to share the love of Christ with people, no matter what.

I covet your prayers for this person. Would it not be so God glorifying if this person was brought out of that lifestyle and embraced Jesus as Saviour and Lord.
 

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I really do not care, just do not be a pest.

You started a thread and many us that haven't been a member of your fan club would like to know about your professional background.

Do you have any forensic psychological experience dealing with homosexual assaults or murders?
 

Arthur Brain

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Agree with you on not closeable. Not indifferent, mainly as it conflicts with my religious beliefs. It also conflicts with my nature as a person.

One pint to this thread, most Christians, it goes without saying, disapprove og homosexuality, but it is more. i find it repulsive outside of religion, yet I do not hate it, I would not understand it, as I am totally heterosexual. Maybe more people than i realise, do have more bisexual tendency, thus religion plays the largest part.

For me, outside of my faith, i would be repulsed by it, but not hate it. I would rather not invest the energy to hate it because I am that distant from it. make sense?

Well, I find any thought of intimacy with another man repulsive. It's not something I could possibly entertain as I'm completely heterosexual too. (Yes aCW, make note, I'm sure you already have)

Then again there's other things I would find detestable that others enjoy so my overall take on the subject is that through one reason or another it's something that's wired. I don't buy that all homosexual people are the way they are due to abuse or a non traditional family unit. There's far too many testimonies to the contrary so from a purely secular standpoint I don't have any personal interest in it, although I do argue on the subject where people like aCW does his 'thang'...
 

Arthur Brain

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Thanks, you point out one big difference between male sexuality and female sexuality. Men, we women know, like the objective view, while women are more a mixture, from being mainly subjective, to subjective-objective.

Test show women who state 'like his smile' are different from women who say, 'like his hunky shoulders'

We who are not made silly by the nodes of future present, do not mind you men liking our bods, not at all, that is why women clothes shop wear cosmetics, and are so concerned about looking young

I think men are certainly more wired to the overtly visual, hence why glamour magazines are predominantly aimed at heterosexual blokes.
 

Arthur Brain

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You were honest about enjoying watching an act of homosexuality (nothing to be proud of Art).

Exclusively between attractive women and it could be simulated and more the erotic which would have the more appealing factor. I simply answered you honestly and I didn't say it was anything to be proud of anyway doofus.

You OTOH tried to make out that I - or anyone who admitted to such were homosexual themselves which was as laughable as it was ignorant and ludicrous.

As long as the opposite sex was engaging in a act of homosexuality.

Allow me to acquaint you with what should already be blindingly obvious. For a heterosexual male there is one constant underpinning factor in any sort of sexual proclivity or fantasy - that being there always being at least one member of the opposite sex involved...:duh:

We'll get you and others like you the help you need. Hang in there for another decade if you can (the odds aren't in your favor though...see the B.A.R. obits as a reference).

You'd need to 'cure' the majority of heterosexual mankind then. Frankly, the biggest help you could give is to grow a brain instead of that bunch of rocks you've got rattling around in that loony skull of yours...
 

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My brain cannot fathom the attraction of a man to another man. It just doesn't. I am put off by the idea of it and now that the media/news/movies, etc allows photographs of men kissing, images of a more sexual nature, I am always repulsed.

We totally agree
How many have tried to find it in money, education, fame, etc
Absolutely, it may seem i am thundering in my good nature when all i am sating IS my nature. My biggest stumbling block is money, high status, more, I cannot seem to focus on what should be paramount, when my own thought is my greatest ability is not psychology, or law, but investments, playing the stock market. it is as if i cannot ignore this and I never will spend the money, I think it is all for my kids, yet it is THE THING IN ITSELF!

I am one of those prissy girls who gets her nails done. I went to a new salon and spa because I had a gift certificate given to me for $200. I took someone with me, another Christian woman. She was booked for pedicure and massage and I was booked for gel nails and my brows. Well....there is a purpose to this story...lol. The person who approached us had long extensions of platinum blonde hair, 4 inch heels, leggings, a tunic styled top with multiple necklaces and bracelets, tons of make up and a very odd voice. My friend looked at me all disturbed and whispered, I am not going with that one. I said, okay.
I too was like that, but with age, the looks thing abated, yet I still notice the split second a man looks that way at me. I do not react more than a pleasant flirt, but it makes my day. ( Not as much as the stock market staying above 17000) :rotfl:

I sat down across from this person at the manicure station and we started to chat. This *girl* was very well done up, but I knew it was a guy
I did not see this part, oh I just don't know, why do I not see them? I think most homosexual men are sissies. I think some are what i would call punked out? I really think those without a medical reason are either secondary heterosexual narcissists, or super sissies. I guess I would self-censer?
 

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I can see that you're extremely ignorant on the subject...

Yeah, I'm extremely ignorant on all subjects. I don't know nuthin', I don't have nuthin', I don't want nuthin' ... so I'm perfectly happy.

And you? Why don't you tell me how smart you are? I might be really impressed.
 

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i am thundering in my good nature when all i am sating IS my nature. My biggest stumbling block is money, high status, more, I cannot seem to focus on what should be paramount, when my own thought is my greatest ability is not psychology, or law, but investments, playing the stock market. it is as if i cannot ignore this and I never will spend the money, I think it is all for my kids, yet it is THE THING IN ITSELF!


I too was like that, but with age, the looks thing abated, yet I still notice the split second a man looks that way at me. I do not react more than a pleasant flirt, but it makes my day. ( Not as much as the stock market staying above 17000) :rotfl:



Gads . . .

Is this thread all about Ktoyou's (aged) sexuality and wealth, or what?
 

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I think men are certainly more wired to the overtly visual, hence why glamour magazines are predominantly aimed at heterosexual blokes.

Right, yet not just visual, as women have as much of that. Men seek the perfect mate by her ability to reproduce. Women seek a man who best makes it possible.

I remember when 'Playgirl' came out with another, "viva" I think, and they both flopped. It was not we were not ready; women need so much more subjective than men.
 

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You were honest about enjoying watching an act of homosexuality (nothing to be proud of Art).

Exclusively between attractive women and it could be simulated and more the erotic which would have the more appealing factor. I simply answered you honestly and I didn't say it was anything to be proud of anyway doofus.

Why don't you put all of this foolishness of defending homosexuality behind you and find a nice young lady and marry her Art? Granted, the homosexual porno business will lose a major financial contributor, but with people like Christian Liberty, GFR7 and noguru out there, I'm sure they'll be just fine.
 

Arthur Brain

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Why don't you put all of this foolishness of defending homosexuality behind you and find a nice young lady and marry her Art? Granted, the homosexual porno business will lose a major financial contributor, but with people like Christian Liberty, GFR7 and noguru out there, I'm sure they'll be just fine.

Well, considering I don't buy or give any sort of financial aid to pornography they'd hardly be missing anything oh gormless one. If I were it would be the heterosexual 'porno business' that would miss out as such is aimed at straight men, something which still doesn't compute for some unknown reason for you does it?
As for the rest, you know squat about my personal life and as I've explained before you ain't gonna either...don't bother sharing yours as I wouldn't believe a word of anything you had to say about it anyway.
 

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Why don't you put all of this foolishness of defending homosexuality behind you and find a nice young lady and marry her Art? Granted, the homosexual porno business will lose a major financial contributor, but with people like Christian Liberty, GFR7 and noguru out there, I'm sure they'll be just fine.

Luke 18:9-14
9 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: 10 “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ 13 But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”
 

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Do you have any forensic psychological experience dealing with homosexual assaults or murders?

Yes, in prison sexual assault. I was pro requested segregation, and anti "the reproduction of the she-male. I mean against prisoners taking female hormones.

Based on one principle, equal time! I detested that for some, prison was a winter sex pleasure dome, while others lost their life, or what means in life.
 

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Yes, in prison sexual assault. I was pro requested segration, emale and anti "the reproduction of the she-male. I mean against prosoners taking female hormones.

Based on one principle, equal time! I detested that for some, prison was a winter sex pleasure dome, while others lost their life, or what means in life.

I appreciate the information. When I reopen my thread (I had to close it because the boyz were getting all worked up talking about men in uniforms), I might have to call on you to tell some stories, as I'll be talking about homosexual violence.
 
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