John 17:6 KJV is Jesus speaking of his Apostles, disciples and those that God gave to Him. The lost sheep of Israel denied Christ
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John 17:6 KJV is Jesus speaking of his Apostles, disciples and those that God gave to Him. The lost sheep of Israel denied Christ
Have to give it to GT; though I greatly disagree with much that she posts, she is at least obviously vey familiar with the whole of Scripture.
Likewise as to others I at times find difference in understanding with on one thing or another, and visa versa.
Can't say the same for the many who claim to "know the truth" yet, all they ever do is parrot what is obviously another's labor.
It appears a malignance within all schools of thought.
Likewise as to others I at times find difference in understanding with on one thing or another, and visa versa.
Can't say the same for the many who claim to "know the truth" yet, all they ever do is parrot what is obviously another's labor.
It appears a malignance within all schools of thought.
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That is right, FUTURE, and the future came when Jesus came.
The remnant believed, just like only a remnant will be saved.
You are denying it. You say Jesus will come back and then save Jews. Tell me, what happened to all those who died in their sins? Tell me, is Jesus going to raise only those who are blood related to Abraham?
What don’t you get about when Jesus comes again it will NOT BE TO BEAR SINS?
How are the Jews who deny him going to be saved if Jesus does not forgive them for their sins?
Let’s hear how you answer that one.
The scripture is a quote from the Old Testament. The Old Testament scripture from Amos 9:11, and 12 does not say “After that” However, Jeremiah 12 says “after I uproot them.”
Jeremiah 12:15
But after I uproot them, I will again have compassion and will bring each of them back to their own inheritance and their own country.
Jesus is sitting there and it is better than the earthly throne on this earth that you think he is not over.
Again, the throne of God is over ALL thrones.
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Ephesians 1:21 far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come.
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Even though we do not agree on everything, I would agree with that.
You could find division in a cell - LOL - it seems you disagree quite a bit with others, and what is YOUR labor ? where is it ?
Duh, I'm talking about the ones that didn't. Remember them ? They crucified my Lord. Stop mincing words.
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The ones that didn't believe Jesus were the Jews who were cut off and hardened by God so they could not hear Jesus and be saved. God did not cut off the lost sheep of Israel.
Read what Jesus says and believe
John 17:6 "I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.
Did you read that? Jesus says they were yours and THEY HAVE OBEYED YOUR WORD
Still future!
There was a remnant in Paul's time. I haven't denied that.
Yes, that's what Scripture says. But not just Jews......'all Israel'.
They died in their sins.
Of course not.
There you go again with that line.
I've told you several times before that the Lord Jesus died once for sin, as the scripture says.
No Jews who deny Him will be saved and they won't be forgiven of their sins.
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James quotes Amos 9:11, but changes the beginning to 'After this'.
Yeah, I know.
The Lord Jesus is sitting in the Father's throne, 'until', as the Scriptures say.
He says that He will take His glorious throne at His second coming to earth.
It certainly is. I've always affirmed and never denied that.
Amen!!!
and they were His disciples, apostles; followers of Christ. You spend so much time debating what is already known, mincing words
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No, not still future. The people had the chance then, just as we all do
That is the remnant the Bible speaks about.
That is what Jesus is doing NOW.
So then, who in the world do you think are the Jews who rejected Jesus if not those who lived and died? Those Jews are more blood related than any Jews who will exist at the end of the world.
Jesus died for the sins of the world once and for all, but NO ONE has ACCESS to THAT GRACE unless they come to Jesus and repent of their sins.
The Bible says when Jesus comes again it will NOT be to bear sins. Do you think the people can ask for forgiveness from Jesus AFTER Jesus comes back?
You are the one who says Jesus is going to come again and the Jews will rule the earth with him.
They have the chance to come to Jesus then! Jesus came and died for the sins of the world. Jesus came first for the lost sheep of Israel; those are the Jews who had faith in God BEFORE Jesus came. The rest of the Jews were hardened and cut off. When Jesus was crucified, then all the Jews can be saved, if they come to Jesus in faith and repentance. God bound all to disobedience so He can have mercy on all. Why do you keep dividing Jews from the rest of the people?
Show me the scripture that says Jesus is going to take another throne.
When Jesus comes again, it will be at the Great White Throne judgment.
When Jesus lives on the new earth, he will HAND OVER the kingdom to the Father. But that is when you say Jesus will rule.
So then, why do you insist Jesus is going to give up the throne of God for an earthly throne?
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He is not giving me anything.
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...but you speak of another throne.
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You are calling all the Jews lost sheep of Israel.