ECT .....To create in Himself one new man from the two.....(For anti Acts 2 people)

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I believe it, it is you and heir who don't believe it.

1 Peter 2:10 tells us that Hosea 1:10 was fulfilled in the first century.

It was in the first century that the children of Judah and the children of Israel were joined together when Jesus made the NC with His shed blood, and became King over them.

You think 1 Peter 2:10 refers to Jews. That's as bad as heir thinking Loammi refers to Jews.

It refers to sinners and that is about everyone who did not obey God.

Just as the saved are Israel, no matter what their human descent.
 

steko

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Luk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:


Too bad that professing Christians here do not believe all that the prophets have spoken.
It's the opposite blindness from the Jews in the gospel narratives.
The Jews, including Christ's disciples, failed to see and understand that Christ must suffer, die and resurrect according to prophecy.
Professing Christians today fail to see that that there is more prophetic
fulfillment to take place after the DBR as well as after Christ's ascension.

Fulfilled:

Act 3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

Not fulfilled....yet:

Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Act 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.



restitution- "ἀποκατάστασις
apokatástasis; gen. apokatastáseōs, fem. noun from apokathístēmi (G600), to restore. A restitution of a thing to its former condition."- Complete Word Study Dictionary- Spiros Zodhiates
 

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Luk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:


Too bad that professing Christians here do not believe all that the prophets have spoken.
It's the opposite blindness from the Jews in the gospel narratives.
The Jews, including Christ's disciples, failed to see and understand that Christ must suffer, die and resurrect according to prophecy.
Professing Christians today fail to see that that there is more prophetic
fulfillment to take place after the DBR as well as after Christ's ascension.

Fulfilled:

Act 3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

Not fulfilled....yet:

Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Act 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.



restitution- "ἀποκατάστασις
apokatástasis; gen. apokatastáseōs, fem. noun from apokathístēmi (G600), to restore. A restitution of a thing to its former condition
."- Complete Word Study Dictionary- Spiros Zodhiates
Jesus says HE FULFILLED, but you say not fulfilled!
 

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Luk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:


Too bad that professing Christians here do not believe all that the prophets have spoken.
It's the opposite blindness from the Jews in the gospel narratives.
The Jews, including Christ's disciples, failed to see and understand that Christ must suffer, die and resurrect according to prophecy.
Professing Christians today fail to see that that there is more prophetic
fulfillment to take place after the DBR as well as after Christ's ascension.

Fulfilled:

Act 3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

Not fulfilled....yet:

Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Act 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.



restitution- "ἀποκατάστασις
apokatástasis; gen. apokatastáseōs, fem. noun from apokathístēmi (G600), to restore. A restitution of a thing to its former condition."- Complete Word Study Dictionary- Spiros Zodhiates

NOT FULFILLED???!!!

That scripture is a reading OF AN OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE!!! Don't you understand what that means?

That means the apostle was quoting an old testament scripture about what was happening NOW, and then; the now times!!!
 

steko

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Jesus says HE FULFILLED, but you say not fulfilled!

The Lord Jesus was referring to all things concerning His death, burial and resurrection, and obviously not everything the prophets said concerning the future following, or else the Scriptures contradict themselves and Peter, speaking by the Holy Spirit, was wrong.
And one would have to say that he angel Gabriel was also wrong in:

Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.


Is Christ sitting on David's throne?
Is He presently ruling over the house of Israel in a kingdom which will never end?



Was the Holy Spirit also mistaken as He spoke by Zacharia?

Luk 1:69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;
Luk 1:70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:
Luk 1:71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;


Was Israel saved from her enemies by their promised Messiah at that time?
 

steko

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Steko is using a scripture, a scripture that is ABOUT JESUS FULFILLING, he is using it to say not all is fulfilled!!!!!!

The Lord Jesus called those who did not believe all that the prophets said concerning Him, 'Fools'.
 

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The Lord Jesus was referring to all things concerning His death, burial and resurrection, and obviously not everything the prophets said concerning the future following, or else the Scriptures contradict themselves and Peter, speaking by the Holy Spirit, was wrong.
And one would have to say that he angel Gabriel was also wrong in:

Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Is Christ sitting on David's throne?
Is He presently ruling over the house of Israel in a kingdom which will never end?
JESUS FULFILLED ALL!!!!!!!!!!
You make Jesus a failure!!!!
Jesus says all things are restored, see Matthew 17:11-12; and Mark 9:12. David’s fallen tent is restored see Acts 15:16.

Did you read that? ALL THINGS ARE RESTORED.
You are giving power to earthly things over the Spiritual things. You are as the Jews were who missed their Messiah. They were looking for an earthly king! Jesus is about what is Spiritual.
 

steko

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NOT FULFILLED???!!!

That scripture is a reading OF AN OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE!!! Don't you understand what that means?

That means the apostle was quoting an old testament scripture about what was happening NOW, and then; the now times!!!

So...the Lord Jesus has already returned from heaven and has restored all things which the prophets foretold since the beginning of the world.

:loser:
 

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So...the Lord Jesus has already returned from heaven and has restored all things which the prophets foretold since the beginning of the world.

:loser:

You are exactly what you are saying I am.

Read more carefully.

The apostle was QUOTING the OLD TESTAMENT, and the time of refreshment was NOW...which was THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

steko

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JESUS FULFILLED ALL!!!!!!!!!!
You make Jesus a failure!!!!
Jesus says all things are restored, see Matthew 17:11-12; and Mark 9:12. David’s fallen tent is restored see Acts 15:16.

Did you read that? ALL THINGS ARE RESTORED.
You are giving power to earthly things over the Spiritual things. You are as the Jews were who missed their Messiah. They were looking for an earthly king! Jesus is about what is Spiritual.

They were right to be looking for an earthly King because that's what the prophets said.

You impose Platonic ideas on the Scripture with all your immaterial, airy fairy, Spiritualism.
 

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They were right to be looking for an earthly King because that's what the prophets said.

You impose Platonic ideas on the Scripture with all your immaterial, airy fairy, Spiritualism.

Read the scripture again, and again, and again.

You are not giving it enough care, for with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

The apostle was telling the JEWS WHAT WAS SAID IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. The apostle was letting them know that the time NOW (their time) was being fulfilled.
 

steko

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You are exactly what you are saying I am.

Read more carefully.

The apostle was QUOTING the OLD TESTAMENT, and the time of refreshment was NOW...which was THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, Peter said, "Israel, if you will repent, then GOD will send Jesus, whom the heavens must receive until the times of restoration of all things spoken by the prophets."

That's future.

So.....you don't believe that the Lord Jesus will return as He said He would?
 

steko

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Read the scripture again, and again, and again.

You are not giving it enough care, for with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

The apostle was telling the JEWS WHAT WAS SAID IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. The apostle was letting them know that the time NOW (their time) was being fulfilled.

But Peter is saying the prophecy in Joel was in the process of being fulfilled in Acts 2. But this is occurring after the death, burial, resurrection and ascension, yet you say that the Lord Jesus fulfilled it all before Acts 2 and that there was nothing else to be fulfilled.

You can't have it both ways.
 

steko

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GT, read the scripture again, and again, and again.

You are not giving it enough care.
 

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But Peter is saying the prophecy in Joel was in the process of being fulfilled in Acts 2. But this is occurring after the death, burial, resurrection and ascension, yet you say that the Lord Jesus fulfilled it all before Acts 2 and that there was nothing else to be fulfilled.

You can't have it both ways.

Huh?

Peter was telling them that they have the chance NOW, and that it WAS prophesied about.
 

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No, Peter said, "Israel, if you will repent, then GOD will send Jesus, whom the heavens must receive until the times of restoration of all things spoken by the prophets."

That's future.

So.....you don't believe that the Lord Jesus will return as He said He would?

Peter was SPEAKING ABOUT WHAT THE OLD TESTAMENT SAID.

Peter was letting them know it WAS prophesied about and that they had a chance to be saved NOW.
 

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No, Peter said, "Israel, if you will repent, then GOD will send Jesus, whom the heavens must receive until the times of restoration of all things spoken by the prophets."

That's future.

So.....you don't believe that the Lord Jesus will return as He said He would?

Again, the apostle was quoting scripture from the old testament.

JOHN THE BAPTIZER was the one who prepared the way for Jesus.

The Jews had to repent for Jesus to come to them

The Jews AND ANYONE WHO REPENTS prepares their HEART FOR JESUS TO SAVE THEM AND LIVE IN THEM.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Read the scripture again, and again, and again.

You are not giving it enough care, for with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

The apostle was telling the JEWS WHAT WAS SAID IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. The apostle was letting them know that the time NOW (their time) was being fulfilled.

Have YOU ever read the "ENTIRE" Bible?
 
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