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But a quarantine takes away people's freedom. It changes them from citizens to serfs. That's heaven on earth to a lot of Democrat leaders.
I do not understand this argument. Sure, I love freedom and I commend it as something we should strive for. But, we live in a real world, with real threats. And, in some cases, the wisest course of action is to temporarily curtail freedom in service of a higher goal. . . . .
Masks and lockdowns were NOT the wisest course.

And you're a liar when you say you love freedom because you side with those who ae oppressing and squashing every one of our constitutional rights.

A TRUE patriot would be someone who defends the rights of even those they disagree with. You do not need to understand why we don't want to wear a mask. You need to defend our right not to, or else you are a liar and a hypocrite

Still waiting for a real answer if you are done with your sissy-lala rhymes.
 

chair

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No, we do NOT claim that COVID is "not serious". We claim is that it has been OVER-HYPED to be claimed (by people like you) that it's worse than it really is.
I hear you. Please tell me what you think COVID is like.

What I see is over 500,000 dead in the US, despite the somewhat haphazard precautions taken. I see people sick and dying in thousands in countries all over the world. Is it as bad as the Spanish Flu? No. Is it just another flu virus? Absolutely not. Is this hype?
 

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I hear you. Please tell me what you think COVID is like.
It's like a bad flu.
What I see is over 500,000 dead in the US, despite the somewhat haphazard precautions taken.
What "haphazard precautions"?
I see people sick and dying in thousands in countries all over the world.
That's terrible and was not helped by brutal lockdowns.
Is it as bad as the Spanish Flu? No. Is it just another flu virus? Absolutely not. Is this hype?
Hype is people like you denying the science and insisting that only draconian government solutions are "reasonable".
 

chair

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It's like a bad flu.

What "haphazard precautions"?

That's terrible and was not helped by brutal lockdowns.

Hype is people like you denying the science and insisting that only draconian government solutions are "reasonable".
We were discussing how serious the disease was. Not whether lockdowns were brutal.
It is serious. You've seen the numbers.
 

way 2 go

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I hear you. Please tell me what you think COVID is like.
flu kills younger people wuflu kills retired people that can stay home

(yes that is an over simplification ) but true
What I see is over 500,000 dead in the US, despite the somewhat haphazard precautions taken. I see people sick and dying in thousands in countries all over the world. Is it as bad as the Spanish Flu? No. Is it just another flu virus? Absolutely not. Is this hype?
is this hype , yes

2019 usa Number of deaths: 2,854,838
Heart disease: 659,041
Cancer: 599,601
 

chair

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Meanwhile, back in reality, we have about 8 cases per million here in Israel now. In the US it is about 150 cases per million, which is far better than the situation in January. Hopefully enough people will get vaccinated in the US and the number cases will drop quickly.

 
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