Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 5

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aCultureWarrior

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Though [LGBTQ icon Walt] Whitman was not pederastic in the classical sense, it appears that he had sexual relationships with both men and boys and perhaps women as well. In 1841, Whitman was allegedly tared and feathered and rode him out of town on a rail due to reports that he was having sexual relationships with one or more of his male students in Southold, N.Y. [2]…

Is being tarred and feathered for raping children better than having a millstone placed around your neck and tossed into the sea?

NAMBLA isn't a credited source of information about anything and yet you keep using it. It doesn't reflect homosexuals at all but you'll still keep scouring their site and articles and peddling the same garbage ad nausea. It's just bizarre and boring in equal measure.

It appears that no one wants to talk about LGBTQ icon Walt Whitman nor the preferred form of punishment for child rapists ( Should they be tarred and feathered like LGBTQ icon Walt Whitman or go with Jesus' recommendation of putting a millstone around their neck and thrown into the depths of the sea? Decisions decisions).

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Before I move onto numerous posts pages dedicated to Kevin "fistgate" Jennings and the sexually depraved child indoctrinating organization that he founded {GLSEN/Gay Straight Lesbian Education Network) I wanted to do a little review of

Paidika: The Journal of Pedophilia

which … Dante and I discussed back in Part 3 of Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! I'll do that in the next post.
 

Kit the Coyote

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The problem, of course, is there are thousands of LGBT people who are successful members of society, aren't raping children, paying their taxes, are members of the local church, aren't spreading diseases, etc. I posted examples of them. In the modern Sodom, we have found the at least ten innocent people. But CW would punish them anyway.

This will be the problem with his goal and why homosexuality will NOT be recriminalized.
 

MrDante

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I'm still awaiting evidence from you or your LGBTQ sources that Candice Wiggins didn't speak to anyone about the harassment she received from lesbian players.

How do you know that she didn't discuss it with a fellow player that wasn't homosexual? How do you know that she didn't discuss it with her coach or coaches?


Well first there are dozens of interviews like the one ESPN did with DeLisha Milton-Jones 02/23/2017
or there are the written statements by players like WNBA 11 year veteran Monique Currie: "I've never witnessed the kind of bullying Wiggins describes in her interview. I'm proud to be a part of a league that supports inclusion and celebrates all players, regardless of their race, religion, or sexuality. We are a family made up of players that love and respect the game of basketball." USSPORT.org Feb 22, 17


Then of course there is the automatic reporting protocols that have been part of the WNBA since it's inception. Protocols that clearly states any member of coaching or management that receives information about violence, threats or harassment among team members are obligated to report.
 

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Regarding homosexual/pederast icon Walt Whitman and his sexual relationship with Bill Ducket:



According to the founders of the modern day man-boy love movement:


"The boy was probably not 12 in 1889, but neither was he 18 in 1886. My estimate is that Bill was 12 when the two began going together in 1884 and was 18 when they parted in 1889. He was unquestionably a teenager when Whitman knew him."
https://www.nambla.org/whitman.html

i.e. Homosexual icon Walt Whitman started raping the lad when he was 12.

so we should ignore historical documents census records because you want to lie and claim someone dead for over a century was a rapist?
 

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Once again, ACW turns to NAMBLA as a source. Has anyone noticed that he is the only one here that reads NAMBLA publications?

As for your claim, you have presented no evidence to support it. What NAMBLA wanted the relationship to be or their seemingly inaccurate guess at the lad's age is meaningless.

yeah his boundless knowledge about the hundreds of founding members of NAMBLA as well as his access to all those NAMBLA publications. Is there any way to get such information without being a member?
 

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Again, provide a scenario showing where promoters of adult-child sex would have that supposed "right" [to gather as an organization to talk/exchange information about having sex with underage boys].


Very well the very NAMBLA publications you like to read and cite...

So you're finally acknowledging (as if you hadn't before) that the North American Man Boy Love Association, a group that according to former undercover FBI Special Agent Bob Hamer meets and talks about raping little boys, has a right to exist (notice I didn't end that sentence with a ?).

According to you, since NAMBLA supposedly has a right to exist, then they supposedly have a right to put out a publication that talks about man-boy sex (i.e. child rape). (Notice again that I didn't end that sentence with a ?).

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If you need further clarification on the 'right', look up the legal term prior restraint.

I have (oops, it appears that the term sides with aCW, not Kit who says that NAMBLA has a right to exist and put out a monthly publication that promotes "man-boy love") :

Prior Restraint

Definition
In First Amendment law, prior restraint is government action that prohibits speech or other expression before the speech happens. .
Overview (Under Construction)
Prior restraint typically happens in a few ways. It may be a statute or regulation that requires a speaker to acquire a permit or license before speaking. Prior restraint can also be a judicial injunction that prohibits certain speech. There is a third way--discussed below--in which the government outright prohibits a certain type of speech...
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/prior_restraint

I asked this question in an earlier post and since you didn't answer, will ask it again:

Does this supposed "right" to form an organization and put out publications only extend to homosexual adult males raping little boys, or does it extend to other organizations? (Notice that I ended that sentence with a ? this time).

While I could pose several scenarios, here's one (just one) that I would like you to answer in detail as to why it should be legal for this group of people to meet as an organization and put out publications promoting their cause:


A group of men start an organization (the number of participants in the organization is not known since they keep their membership secret, but it is known that there is at least several hundred men in the organization itself, but due to the internet, the group has thousands of supporters)) that meet regularly and put out a monthly newsletter promoting violence (beating up and in some cases murdering) against homosexuals.

Explain away Kit.
 
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Strap yourselves in oh dedicated hordes of aCW followers, this latest installment is gonna be one helluva ride by the looks of it. One of you may even feel inclined to post in it!

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Oh golly there's a FIFTH thread. HAHA!

I'm so amused right now.

(In b4 aCW ignores that I believe homosexuality should be recriminalized and calls me a libertarian again)
 

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Oh golly there's a FIFTH thread. HAHA!

I'm so amused right now.

(In b4 aCW ignores that I believe homosexuality should be recriminalized and calls me a libertarian again)


Welcome back Jr. The majority of Part 2 (which wasn't saved in the TOL archives, but I do have notes galore on it) was dedicated to exposing Libertarianism, which you adamantly defended.

I did a quick search of some of your comments in part 3 and came up with this from the table of contents:

More quotes from the Jr. Libertarian (aka Christian Liberty) : "...[disclaimer], I don't think exposing one's genitals in the presence of children is just cause to lock them up, [disclaimer]. It isn't actually a physical threat..."; page 16, post #233

http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ized!-Part-3&p=3934830&viewfull=1#post3934830

To which I replied:

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

Jr. thinks these type of things should be legal: (picture of a naked male walking past a scared little boy at a 'gay' pride parade).


Welcome back Jr. You're a goldmine, i.e. a Persephone66 without the cheap makeup and nylons (I'm giving the kid the benefit of the doubt here).

http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ized!-Part-3&p=3934838&viewfull=1#post3934838

While I know that you and your TOL allies would just love to change the subject from Kit the Coyote defending child molesters, I'm going to wait until Kit returns (if he does) with a reply to my earlier post before going on to further discussions.
 

Kit the Coyote

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So you're finally acknowledging (as if you hadn't before) that the North American Man-Boy Love Association, a group that according to former undercover FBI Special Agent Bob Hamer meets and talks about raping little boys, has a right to exist (notice I didn't end that sentence with a ?).

I have never denied any of that. I think I've also said they are a joke, and that any of them that seek to act on raping little boys should be punished to the full extent of the law.

According to you, since NAMBLA supposedly has a right to exist, then they supposedly have a right to put out a publication that talks about man-boy sex (i.e. child rape). (Notice again that I didn't end that sentence with a ?).

They have the same right of assembly and the press as every other American and the same responsibilities that come with those rights as any other American. I have no idea what they publish in their publication, I always sort of assumed they limited it to their public political stance to avoid getting in trouble. As we have both observed before though if their publication is advocating a crime they can be held responsible for that.

I have (oops, it appears that the term sides with aCW, not Kit who says that NAMBLA has a right to exist and put out a monthly publication that promotes "man-boy love") :

Prior Restraint

Definition
In First Amendment law, prior restraint is government action that prohibits speech or expression before the speech happens. .
Overview (Under Construction)
Prior restraint typically happens in a few ways. It may be a statute or regulation that requires a speaker to acquire a permit or license before speaking. Prior restraint can also be a judicial injunction that prohibits certain speech. There is a third way--discussed below--in which the government outright prohibits a certain type of speech...

Oops, I seem to have left part of it out, I should have said what the Supreme Court says about prior restraint and censorship. Namely that the state has to have very specific reasons to use prior restraint.

I asked this question in an earlier post and since you didn't answer, will ask it again:

Does this supposed "right" to form an organization and put out publications only extend to homosexual adult males raping little boys, or does it extend to other organizations? (Notice that I ended that sentence with a ? this time).

While I could pose several scenarios, here's one (just one) that I would like you to answer in detail as to why it should be legal for this group of people to meet as an organization and put out publications promoting their cause:

A group of men start an organization (the number of participants in the organization is not known since they keep their membership secret, but it is known that there is at least several hundred men in the organization itself, but due to the internet, the group has thousands of supporters)) that meet regularly and put out a monthly newsletter promoting violence (beating up and in some cases murdering) against homosexuals.

Explain away Kit.

They have the same right of assembly and the press as every other American and the same responsibilities that come with those rights as any other American. As we have both observed before though if their publication is advocating a crime they can be held responsible for that. Particularly if the website and publication can be linked to justifications used by persons who act on their advice.
 

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
So you're finally acknowledging (as if you hadn't before) that the North American Man-Boy Love
Association, a group that according to former undercover FBI Special Agent Bob Hamer meets and talks about raping little boys, has a right to exist (notice I didn't end that sentence with a ?).

I have never denied any of that...

I'm just confirming what you've said all along, but were hesitant to make yourself clear about it.

I think I've also said they are a joke,...

A lot of people don't find the subject of child rape funny.

And now for a disclaimer (if you support child rape, you MUST provide a disclaimer stating that child rapists should be punished).

and that any of them that seek to act on raping little boys should be punished to the full extent of the law.

Kinda like the arsonist who set the fire using a garden hose to put out an out of control forest fire (the extreme harm has already been done and will continue to be done, and instead of preventing it, you deal with the aftermath).

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
According to you, since NAMBLA supposedly has a right to exist, then they supposedly have a right to put out a publication that talks about man-boy sex (i.e. child rape). (Notice again that I didn't end that sentence with a ?).

They have the same right of assembly and the press as every other American and the same responsibilities that come with those rights as any other American.

i.e. if you have right to publish the contents of The Holy Bible, you should have the right to publish speech about child rape.

I have no idea what they publish in their publication, I always sort of assumed they limited it to their public political stance to avoid getting in trouble. As we have both observed before though if their publication is advocating a crime they can be held responsible for that.

The central theme is 'man-boy love' (child rape). That's enough for any decent society to prohibit it.


Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
I have (oops, it appears that the term sides with aCW, not Kit who says that NAMBLA has a right to exist and put out a monthly publication that promotes "man-boy love") :

Prior Restraint

Definition
In First Amendment law, prior restraint is government action that prohibits speech or expression before the speech happens. .
Overview (Under Construction)
Prior restraint typically happens in a few ways. It may be a statute or regulation that requires a speaker to acquire a permit or license before speaking. Prior restraint can also be a judicial injunction that prohibits certain speech. There is a third way--discussed below--in which the government outright prohibits a certain type of speech...

Oops, I seem to have left part of it out, I should have said what the Supreme Court says about prior restraint and censorship. Namely that the state has to have very specific reasons to use prior restraint.

There was no purpose in talking about how the same group of judicial activists who gave us Roe v Wade, Lawrence v Texas and Obergefell v Hodges might use 'Prior Restraint' laws to prohibit NAMBLA and hence the LGBTQ movement from talking about and hence promoting sex with children. Besides, the all too powerful communist founded ACLU is on the side of NAMBLA and SCOTUS ruled on inflammatory speech in the case of Brandenburg v. Ohio.

A little about those little boys who supposedly aren't hurt by talk about man-child rape:

Warning! The mother of a homosexual murder/rape (in that order) victim talks about what homosexuals do to children.


In 1997, adult male members of the gay organization, NAMBLA, had lured Barbara Curley's young son into thinking strangers were cool, their buying him treats and promising him a bicycle. But what Jeffrey, a 10-year old little boy didn't know, was that these men wanted access to his still developing sexual organs and private parts.
It's not much different than the gay adults had done to Jesse Dirkhising, a boy of 13-years old. His murderers had tied Jesse to a mattress on the floor, securing him with duct tape so they could have fun sticking items into his anus without him being able to get away. When he screamed from the pain, they stuffed his underwear into his mouth taking life's air supply from him while they continued to abuse his body. Do you think they were sorry? When they were done, they took their pants down and spilled out their warm feces all over the teenager's dead body.
Jeffrey Curley, unlike Jesse, was simply held down by a very obese gay NAMBLA member. The gay held a rag soaked with gasoline to the child's face in the back seat of the gay's fancy car until little Jeffrey was dead. A report said the gay men then took Jeffrey back to their apartment and played with his dead cadaver. When done with violating the body, they stuffed little Jeffrey's dead body into a Tubberware tub and covered it with lime, added concrete and then throw it into the river. Not exactly the story of baby Moses, who was covered with a warm blanket as he sailed down a river alive and in an open basket.
Barbara Curley, Jeffrey's mother, sued NAMBLA in 1999 to take down their offensive Web site that had helped to kill her child, Web site pages found in the gay murderer's apartment. She probably thought other sane Americans would agree with the injustice that had been done to her son. She was wrong...

Read more: http://www.freedomisknowledge.com/otw/barbaracurleyintro.htm

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10 year old Jeffrey Curley, murdered by homosexuals who were supporters of NAMBLA

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
I asked this question in an earlier post and since you didn't answer, will ask it again:

Does this supposed "right" to form an organization and put out publications only extend to homosexual adult males raping little boys, or does it extend to other organizations? (Notice that I ended that sentence with a ? this time).

While I could pose several scenarios, here's one (just one) that I would like you to answer in detail as to why it should be legal for this group of people to meet as an organization and put out publications promoting their cause:

A group of men start an organization (the number of participants in the organization is not known since they keep their membership secret, but it is known that there is at least several hundred men in the organization itself, but due to the internet, the group has thousands of supporters)) that meet regularly and put out a monthly newsletter promoting violence (beating up and in some cases murdering) against homosexuals.

Explain away Kit.

They have the same right of assembly and the press as every other American and the same responsibilities that come with those rights as any other American. As we have both observed before though if their publication is advocating a crime they can be held responsible for that. Particularly if the website and publication can be linked to justifications used by persons who act on their advice.

Be careful Kit, if you go to your favorite political forum in a homosexual pornography website and tell the homosexuals there that those conspiring to murder homosexuals "have the same right of assembly and the press as every other American and the same responsibilities that come with those rights as any other American.", I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't be too popular.

Perhaps you should go public with your view and stand out on a street street corner with sign saying that people have a right to talk about murdering homosexuals. Since your obituary will be on the cover of every major news outlet, I guess I'll get to see what you look like.

BTW, don't think for a second that I'm trying to convince you of anything. You and your kind disgust me to no end, and I'm just pointing to those people out there who still have an ounce of decency in them what we're up against.

Moving on...
 

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
I asked this question in an earlier post and since you didn't answer, will ask it again:

Does this supposed "right" to form an organization and put out publications only extend to homosexual adult males raping little boys, or does it extend to other organizations? (Notice that I ended that sentence with a ? this time).

While I could pose several scenarios, here's one (just one) that I would like you to answer in detail as to why it should be legal for this group of people to meet as an organization and put out publications promoting their cause:

A group of men start an organization (the number of participants in the organization is not known since they keep their membership secret, but it is known that there is at least several hundred men in the organization itself, but due to the internet, the group has thousands of supporters)) that meet regularly and put out a monthly newsletter promoting violence (beating up and in some cases murdering) against homosexuals.

Explain away Kit.



Be careful Kit, if you go to your favorite political forum in a homosexual pornography website and tell the homosexuals there that those conspiring to murder homosexuals "have the same right of assembly and the press as every other American and the same responsibilities that come with those rights as any other American.", I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't be too popular.

Perhaps you should go public with your view and stand out on a street street corner with sign saying that people have a right to talk about murdering homosexuals. Since your obituary will be on the cover of every major news outlet, I guess I'll get to see what you look like.

BTW, don't think for a second that I'm trying to convince you of anything. You and your kind disgust me to no end, and I'm just pointing to those people out there who still have an ounce of decency in them what we're up against.

Moving on...
Yes organizations like MassResistance have the right to put out publications
 

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I'm just confirming what you've said all along, but were hesitant to make yourself clear about it.

The only confusion is your constant messing around trying to play games to build strawmen and misrepresent what I said.

A lot of people don't find the subject of child rape funny.

And I am one of them, it is you and people like you with a love affair with NAMBLA that I find funny.

And now for a disclaimer (if you support child rape, you MUST provide a disclaimer stating that child rapists should be punished).

Show where I have supported child rape. Am I to take it from this silly statement you think they should not be punished? After all, you are the ONLY person in this thread with a known association with NAMBLA.

The central theme is 'man-boy love' (child rape). That's enough for any decent society to prohibit it.

Since you are the only person here with an association with NAMBLA, I will have to take your word for it. The rest I will leave to the courts.

There was no purpose in talking about how the same group of judicial activists who gave us Roe v Wade, Lawrence v Texas and Obergefell v Hodges might use 'Prior Restraint' laws to prohibit NAMBLA and hence the LGBTQ movement from talking about and hence promoting sex with children. Besides, the all too powerful communist founded ACLU is on the side of NAMBLA and SCOTUS ruled on inflammatory speech in the case of Brandenburg v. Ohio.

If you don't like the US system of law and justice, you are perfectly free to move.

A little about those little boys who supposedly aren't hurt by talk about man-child rape:

10 year old Jeffrey Curley, murdered by homosexuals who were supporters of NAMBLA

Once again misrepresenting me. I never said boys aren't hurt by talk fo man-child rape.

Perhaps you should abandon your support for NAMBLA in protest.

Be careful Kit, if you go to your favorite political forum in a homosexual pornography website and tell the homosexuals there that those conspiring to murder homosexuals "have the same right of assembly and the press as every other American and the same responsibilities that come with those rights as any other American.", I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't be too popular.

Perhaps you should go public with your view and stand out on a street corner with sign saying that people have a right to talk about murdering homosexuals. Since your obituary will be on the cover of every major news outlet, I guess I'll get to see what you look like.

If the subject came up I would say the same thing, my views are known there and I have little problems. But you are misrepresenting my view AGAIN. Do you ever get tired of lying?

Pointing out that reprehensible speech must be treated the same as all other speech or you do not have free speech is not endorsing that speech. That is all I have said in respect to NAMBLA and your hypothetical while making my disapproval of NAMBLA known.

You have gone to great lengths to build this stupid strawman and in the end, your lie is blatantly obvious.
 

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

I'm still awaiting evidence from you or your LGBTQ sources that Candice Wiggins didn't speak to anyone about the harassment she received from lesbian players.

How do you know that she didn't discuss it with a fellow player that wasn't homosexual? How do you know that she didn't discuss it with her coach or coaches?

Well first there are dozens of interviews like the one ESPN did with DeLisha Milton-Jones 02/23/2017

Would that be the same ESPN as this?

ESPN Pushes Pro-Gay Agenda Following UMass’ Win Over Siena 95-87

By Michael Morris | November 19, 2014 | 1:54 PM EST

The University of Massachusetts defeated Siena 95-87 at the Mullins Center on November 14, 2014, but UMass’ win was not what lured ESPN’s attention to the game – NCAA Men’s Basketball Division I’s first openly gay player was.

In April of this year, UMass junior Derrick Gordon admitted in an interview with ESPN that he is gay, making him the first openly gay Division I men’s basketball player, and while ESPN’s game recap seemed even-handed in regards to its coverage of the game’s events, it would nonetheless be Gordon’s sexual preference, not his in-game performance, that would garner most of the attention on ESPN after Friday night’s game.

An article titled “UMass’ Derrick Gordon nets 17” remained prominently displayed on ESPN’s NCAA Men’s Basketball homepage for five straight days.
In the tightly contested game, two other UMass players outscored Derrick Gordon, but that didn’t stop ESPN’s Kate Fagan from focusing on UMass’ number three, and the game’s number four, scorer of the evening.
Read more: https://www.cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/...y-agenda-following-umass-win-over-siena-95-87

or there are the written statements by players like WNBA 11 year veteran Monique Currie: "I've never witnessed the kind of bullying Wiggins describes in her interview. I'm proud to be a part of a league that supports inclusion and celebrates all players, regardless of their race, religion, or sexuality. We are a family made up of players that love and respect the game of basketball." USSPORT.org Feb 22, 17

So pro homosexual Monique Currie stated that she didn't witness harassment by lesbian players. Case closed?

Then of course there is the automatic reporting protocols that have been part of the WNBA since it's inception. Protocols that clearly states any member of coaching or management that receives information about violence, threats or harassment among team members are obligated to report.

As mentioned before, not a lot of people want to take on the 'gaystapo' and their allies:

WNBA launches LGBT web site, deepens relationship with LGBT fans
https://www.glaad.org/blog/wnba-launches-lgbt-web-site-deepens-relationship-lgbt-fans
 

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
I'm just confirming what you've said all along, but were hesitant to make yourself clear about it.

The only confusion is your constant messing around trying to play games to build strawmen and misrepresent what I said.

If you believe that sexually depraved speech which promotes and leads to sexually depraved behavior is some kind of "right", then you're supportive of that cause.

Now that it's been established that your believe that homosexual child molesters have some supposed "right" to talk about raping little boys and putting out literature supporting their cause, where does this supposed "right" come from?


Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
A lot of people don't find the subject of child rape funny.

And I am one of them, it is you and people like you with a love affair with NAMBLA that I find funny.

You really should be more (openly) grateful to the forefairies of the child molesting LGBTQ movement who made it possible for "sex educators"* like Kevin Jennings to hold important government positions and start organizations that instruct children K-12 to the ways of sexual perversion, as without NAMBLA, Jennings would be just another toe tapping/gloryhole peeking homosexual looking for love in a public restroom toilet stall.

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Spoiler
Instructing youth how to insert one's fist into an orifice that was designed to expel human waste is "sex education" in the LGBTQueer movement.



Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
And now for a disclaimer (if you support child rape, you MUST provide a disclaimer stating that child rapists should be punished).

Show where I have supported child rape. Am I to take it from this silly statement you think they should not be punished? After all, you are the ONLY person in this thread with a known association with NAMBLA.

Need we go over again how you're against laws enforcing prior restraint and how those laws prohibit immoral organizations from forming and hence doing harm to innocent individuals?



Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
The central theme is 'man-boy love' (child rape). That's enough for any decent society to prohibit it.

Since you are the only person here with an association with NAMBLA, I will have to take your word for it. The rest I will leave to the courts.

Your smear campaign against people who stand for decency is nothing new. When AFTAH's Peter LaBarbera exposed the SMUT that goes on within LGBT 'culture", instead of defending their depravity, they called LaBarbera "Porno Pete".


Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
There was no purpose in talking about how the same group of judicial activists who gave us Roe v Wade, Lawrence v Texas and Obergefell v Hodges might use 'Prior Restraint' laws to prohibit NAMBLA and hence the LGBTQ movement from talking about and hence promoting sex with children. Besides, the all too powerful communist founded ACLU is on the side of NAMBLA and SCOTUS ruled on inflammatory speech in the case of Brandenburg v. Ohio.

If you don't like the US system of law and justice, you are perfectly free to move.

I don't run from child molesting perverts Kit, I fight them. Hence the reason for exposing them and attempting to change the corrupt system of law and injustice here in the US.


Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
A little about those little boys who supposedly aren't hurt by talk about man-child rape:

10 year old Jeffrey Curley, murdered by homosexuals who were supporters of NAMBLA

Once again misrepresenting me.

I never said boys aren't hurt by talk fo man-child rape.

i.e. there will be victims along the way...

Perhaps you should abandon your support for NAMBLA in protest.

What size of millstone do you take Kit? I'm guessing pencil-neck small.


Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Be careful Kit, if you go to your favorite political forum in a homosexual pornography website and tell the homosexuals there that those conspiring to murder homosexuals "have the same right of assembly and the press as every other American and the same responsibilities that come with those rights as any other American.", I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't be too popular.

Perhaps you should go public with your view and stand out on a street corner with sign saying that people have a right to talk about murdering homosexuals. Since your obituary will be on the cover of every major news outlet, I guess I'll get to see what you look like.

If the subject came up I would say the same thing, my views are known there and I have little problems. But you are misrepresenting my view AGAIN. Do you ever get tired of lying?

Pointing out that reprehensible speech must be treated the same as all other speech or you do not have free speech is not endorsing that speech. That is all I have said in respect to NAMBLA and your hypothetical while making my disapproval of NAMBLA known.

You have gone to great lengths to build this stupid strawman and in the end, your lie is blatantly obvious.

How about when you're out on that street corner with your sign that you put a little asterisk * at the bottom that says:

*While I don't endorse the murdering of homosexuals, I defend the right of those who do to speak openly about it and start organizations that promote their cause.

I'm sure that little asterisk * will smooth things over with those ever so tolerant free speech loving homosexuals that see your sign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3YIIDgSkiA

Regarding "reprehensible speech must be treated the same as all other speech" :

Thoughts on homosexual 'hate crime' laws?

http://www.lgbtmap.org/equality-maps/hate_crime_laws
 
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Would that be the same ESPN as this?

ESPN Pushes Pro-Gay Agenda Following UMass’ Win Over Siena 95-87

By Michael Morris | November 19, 2014 | 1:54 PM EST

The University of Massachusetts defeated Siena 95-87 at the Mullins Center on November 14, 2014, but UMass’ win was not what lured ESPN’s attention to the game – NCAA Men’s Basketball Division I’s first openly gay player was.

In April of this year, UMass junior Derrick Gordon admitted in an interview with ESPN that he is gay, making him the first openly gay Division I men’s basketball player, and while ESPN’s game recap seemed even-handed in regards to its coverage of the game’s events, it would nonetheless be Gordon’s sexual preference, not his in-game performance, that would garner most of the attention on ESPN after Friday night’s game.

An article titled “UMass’ Derrick Gordon nets 17” remained prominently displayed on ESPN’s NCAA Men’s Basketball homepage for five straight days.
In the tightly contested game, two other UMass players outscored Derrick Gordon, but that didn’t stop ESPN’s Kate Fagan from focusing on UMass’ number three, and the game’s number four, scorer of the evening.
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So pro homosexual Monique Currie stated that she didn't witness harassment by lesbian players. Case closed?



As mentioned before, not a lot of people want to take on the 'gaystapo' and their allies:

WNBA launches LGBT web site, deepens relationship with LGBT fans
https://www.glaad.org/blog/wnba-launches-lgbt-web-site-deepens-relationship-lgbt-fans


not many people go after leprechauns and their invisible mind controlling ray guns either
 

MrDante

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*While I don't endorse the murdering of homosexuals, I defend the right of those who do to speak openly about it and start organizations that promote their cause.

I'm sure that little asterisk * will smooth things over with those ever so tolerant free speech loving homosexuals that see your sign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3YIIDgSkiA

Regarding "reprehensible speech must be treated the same as all other speech" :

Thoughts on homosexual 'hate crime' laws?

http://www.lgbtmap.org/equality-maps/hate_crime_laws

I remember this. Turns out the man assaulting the "preacher" was straight.
 

Kit the Coyote

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If you believe that sexually depraved speech which promotes and leads to sexually depraved behavior is some kind of "right", then you're supportive of that cause.

Now that it's been established that your belief that homosexual child molesters have some supposed "right" to talk about raping little boys and putting out literature supporting their cause, where does this supposed "right" come from?

Both the right of free speech and the right of assembly derive out of the first amendment of the constitution. And once again, pointing out that you have to treat all speech the same is not supporting any type of speech.

Need we go over again how you're against laws enforcing prior restraint and how those laws prohibit immoral organizations from forming and hence doing harm to innocent individuals?

I never said I was against laws enforcing prior restraint. This is another of your misrepresentations. I simply pointed out that the courts have to treat all speech equally and cannot restrict speech except under very narrow circumstances. A line that sometimes NAMBLA has been able to walk, along with Nazis and other reprehensible groups.

Your smear campaign against people who stand for decency is nothing new. When AFTAH's Peter LaBarbera exposed the SMUT that goes on within LGBT 'culture", instead of defending their depravity, they called LaBarbera "Porno Pete".

Peter LaBarbera is an American social conservative activist and the president of the anti-gay organization Americans for Truth about Homosexuality. Wikipedia

I don't run from child molesting perverts Kit, I fight them. Hence the reason for exposing them and attempting to change the corrupt system of law and injustice here in the US.

I agree, too bad you waste so much of your time in an overly generalized attack on all gay people instead of focusing on the child molesters specifically.

What size of millstone do you take Kit? I'm guessing pencil-neck small.

You are the one reading and promoting NAMBLA publications and promoting treatments on children that are considered unsafe perhaps you should ask the question of yourself.

How about when you're out on that street corner with your sign that you put a little asterisk * at the bottom that says:

*While I don't endorse the murdering of homosexuals, I defend the right of those who do to speak openly about it and start organizations that promote their cause.

I'm sure that little asterisk * will smooth things over with those ever so tolerant free speech loving homosexuals that see your sign.

Any sign I carried would correctly represent my views both on the subject of speech, child abuse, and hate groups. I can and have discussed such subjects in the other forum and had quite friendly interesting discussions. So I am not worried at all about it. So how about you put your money where your mouth is and go down among 911 survivors at the NY Fire Department with a sign expressing your view of Father Judge. Be sure your health insurance is paid up.

Regarding "reprehensible speech must be treated the same as all other speech" :

Thoughts on homosexual 'hate crime' laws?

I disapprove of them in general, they smack too much of thought crime.
 

Kit the Coyote

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yeah his boundless knowledge about the hundreds of founding members of NAMBLA as well as his access to all those NAMBLA publications. Is there any way to get such information without being a member?

I am curious, are these publications free? Is our valiant defender of the children providing monetary support to child rapists?
 
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