ECT Why was it necessary for God to test the faith of Abraham?

[Cross Reference]

God seems to only be satisfied With His own seed or Spirit within men. No other fleshly work based action or soulical attribute will God be satisfied with.

Only the Holy SPirit In us and Us in Christ.

Exacty! And there is no "seems" about it. God will-can not compromise Himself in any way with the un-glorified flesh of man. His Holiness prevents Him in this and all else attempting to enter His presence illegally. All this, the result of Adam's transgression and why Paradise, the abode of the righteous dead, became their "holding tank" until the day Jesus set them free.

 

[Lighthouse]

+/- 13 years, God tested Abraham's faith, the final test being the command to sacrifice his son Isaac.

Why do you think God handled Abraham in such a way to prove him __ and over such a long period of time?

Because Abraham was so unsure of his own faith that God didn't even know its depths.

 

[Cross Reference]

Because Abraham was so unsure of his own faith that God didn't even know its depths.

So by that we can assume you believe Abraham wasn't gifted faith to believe God __ would that be a correct assumption? If so, good. I don't believe he was, either.

 

[Lighthouse]

So by that we can assume you believe Abraham wasn't gifted faith to believe God __ would that be a correct assumption? If so, good. I don't believe he was, either.

Yes, that would be a correct assumption.

 

[Arsenios]

In this fallen life, it is WE who are being proven...

God proves us in trials...

At the end, we know what we have proven ourselves to be...

Arsenios

 

[Cross Reference]

In this fallen life, it is WE who are being proven...

God proves us in trials...

At the end, we know what we have proven ourselves to be...

Arsenios

Or prove our lack in the knowledge of the written word of God __ which really is what temptation is all about.

 

[Cross Reference]

Yes, that would be a correct assumption.

Great! Lets see where that bit of understanding might take us as we continue.

 

[Arsenios]

Or prove our lack in the knowledge of the word of God __ which is what temptation is all about.

So Abraham passed this test and proved his abundant knowledge of the word of God?

Abraham himself WAS proven

in a GREAT trial BY God...

And won a GREAT GIFT from God...

Job too, tried and proven...

John the Baptist... No reed blown by the wind was that one!

And all the Holy Ones of God...

Arsenios

 

[chrysostom]

And won a GREAT GIFT from God...

be careful using this word
gift
are you prepared to say
who got it?
why all are not saved?

 

[Cross Reference]

So Abraham passed this test and proved his abundant knowledge of the word of God?

There was no knowledge abundant or otherwise except perhaps by word of mouth handed down to him from Shem. [The timeline might have permitted that.]

Abraham himself WAS proven

in a GREAT trial BY God...

And won a GREAT GIFT from God...

Job too, tried and proven...

John the Baptist... No reed blown by the wind was that one!

And all the Holy Ones of God...

Arsenios

Great gift? hmmm? Which tells us what?

 

[Cross Reference]

In this fallen life, it is WE who are being proven...

God proves us in trials...

At the end, we know what we have proven ourselves to be...

Arsenios

Or prove our lack in the knowledge of the word of God __ which is what temptation is all about.

 

[Aimiel]

Same reason He allows tests in our lives: so that Abe could see exactly how much he really does love His God!!! :thumb:

 

[Lazy afternoon]

God said "now I know".

LA

 

[Cross Reference]

Same reason He allows tests in our lives: so that Abe could see exactly how much he really does love His God!!! :thumb:

Yes and correct any dificiencies there may exist in us. :thumb:

There is no gift of faith in any of this.

 

[Cross Reference]

It is interesting that those who believe God must grant faith for depraved man to believe seem to have nothing to offer.