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  1. Lon

    Adam and or Eve had all the viruses.

    Ouch. Are you sure?
  2. Lon

    Adam and or Eve had all the viruses.

    The times were barbaric. You are second-guessing anyone under judgement. If you are a lawyer, fine. If not you've been presumptuous. Anger? You aren't great at the lawyer thing. :plain: You aren't making a compelling argument. You've compared apples to oranges for your...
  3. Lon

    The Problem With Prayer

    A computer doesn't mind. Similarly God who sustains everything isn't counting. It is just in His knowledge and docket. Even an Open Theist says "everything knowable." Such needs consistency. I know how many coats I own: Sure it is mundane and inane. I'm not bragging about it, I just...
  4. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    This is the difference between prescriptive and decretive. Decretive: toward all creation "It was good." He made everything good. Prescriptive: He has the Son save mankind. Did He 'want' man to Fall? Of course not. It means simply God is able both to make things happen that...
  5. Lon

    Adam and or Eve had all the viruses.

    I'd like to redress some of this. Don't feel you have to respond, but if I can get you to 'think' and perhaps check yourself on a few admonishments.... Ya know....if you actually read the thing :( Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me Deuteronomy 32:39...
  6. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Uhhhg, I'm caught in dictionary circular reasoning: Want: To desire (someone to do something Desire: To wish or long for; want -American Heritage Dictionary :Z
  7. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Great question, may I weigh in and ask for clarity? Bladerunner beat me seconds before I hit 'post' LOL God 'can' get what He wants. It is why there is decretive and prescriptive in understanding His will. If He insists, no one can resist His will, true? We are clay He the Potter...
  8. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    He might have meant sever... :D
  9. Lon

    The Problem With Prayer

    Let me retrack a bit: Likely hundreds of thousands. They? God? He knows the # of hairs on 8 billion heads. A few words in prayer aren't too heard. I assumed you meant "God." And our hairs fall out 24 seven as well, yet He knows how many you and I and 8 billion people have. Perhaps...
  10. Lon

    Why Panentheism is False.

    God has been teaching me the same...if it helps. I've grown to love you and appreciate you so I'm glad God clubbed me on it. In Him
  11. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Thank you for your gracious patience JR!
  12. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Yes you (we) will *(and are in Christ's standing even now)! 1 John 3:2 ;)
  13. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Great verses to post a reply to Will Duffy's Open Theism verses as it touches on many of them. Ty for the quote. https://opentheism.org/verses 1) God hopes His prophecies will fail. -Awkward statement if you aren't Open Theist. It presupposes that God 'hopes.' God is unwilling that any...
  14. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    I think, in the long run, Open Theists and all others who are His, have a good relationship with God. He continually is challenging us through His scriptures and life to be more like His Son. In a nutshell, 'how' we understand Who He is, is important. In that, He has given us instruction...
  15. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    I believe I've addressed most of this, regarless, will do so now. I do need to go to your link and address it sufficiently and that will take a bit of the week (I'm in and out these days). There are all kinds of nuances in the O.T. alone that a cultural class in Hebrew customs and practices is...
  16. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    One of the children I supported in Zimbabwe was in this situation. We cried for two years while we continued support and no word on his well-being. Three years later he was a man , thankfully had escaped the slaughter, and we sent him to trade-school for two years. I hear you and...
  17. Lon

    Why Panentheism is False.

    Exasperation statements do not carry a conversation. Entrench? Of course I'm entrenched. You must understand how people process. They don't have to oppose, but they are going to give you all their thoughts in opposition. I'm a slow burn. Honesty is about taking your points, giving...
  18. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    True. I'd say she doesn't know, just estimates, reasons. Which is why I'm not hung up too much. We alternately assume things based on what we believe. For what it is worth, because I believe He actively sustains the universe, I believe He is omnipresent as a necessity and omniscient as...
  19. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    It isn't that she 'needs' omniscience to know something. You are just talking about assumptions, educated extrapolation etc. I'm not saying God 'needs' omniscience to know Abraham's heart. I'm rather saying it is 'why' He knows (incidental to omniscience). If He knows the # of hairs on...
  20. Lon

    Why Panentheism is False.

    Its a rabbit trail, not important. Because we come from God, Who is Spirit. Physical comes from a Spiritual Being. He wasn't in a universe, He created it. We likely aren't agreeing. I see our 'imago deo' as characteristics that reflect God as Spirit, not at all in our our physical makeup...
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