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It is odd to think God exists no'where.' He exists of/in/by Himself. After creation, He is intricately involved (Colossians 1:16-20). I, a physical being continue to try and capture the truth of Father's Spirit existence, but cannot capture it but with physical constraint every time...

Out of heaven Revelation 21:21 ??? Physical? That'd be physical and most scriptures either talking of theophanies (the Son), or figuratively. Agree on point, but Moses was not allowed to see God's 'face' (couldn't live). It makes better sense than "Now" I know.' Do I have to have it all...

Definitely, approximately, reliably? Out the gate I'd say 'no.' She may think she knows, but this is ancillary knowledge. Know is a misnomer but rather 'expectation' than actually knowing. They only way she can know is if she comes and checks and such is within the scope of what we are...

You weren't probably reading my exchange with Clete. Strong's is good albeit an abbreviated version of Brown,Driver,Briggs, Strong's generally/mostly for casual bible readers. Pastor's do go to it first among their works, but usually when words get this attention, they begin breaking into...

Not at all. Rather it seems God 'knew' Abraham would be there. 'Knew' that Isaac was going to be there. "Now"? 🤔 Banking vs knowing complicates. What did He know? To me? Everything. It's easy. Simple. A child can understand (forgive). Rather, that it wasn't 'now.' If as...

Again, by the logic. False is fine, please correct and help reconcile a problematic implication, even for your thoughts if followed through. "'Now' I know"? Surely you must have wrestled with the same? Okay, bring it back to the text then: "Now(?) I know"??? Explain please. Please...

This is rudimentary, obviously FB has been following my conversations and searches: https://www.facebook.com/reel/905207421452793

Not quite following but I'll mention a bit: 1) Mom said I and my brothers had 10-20 guardian angels a piece that had to tag team to keep us safe (I've had a class on angiology/pneumatology). 2) Colossians 1:16-20 Jesus, Himself sustains the universe. Your thoughts? on: 1Co 2:9 But as it is...

Ontologically, physical comes from Spirit. Spirit is intangible in any physical sense. While heaven is 'where' God dwells, it is also created. Details give us streets of gold etc. but everything is created by God. He tells David that no temple can contain Him, it is an intimation of a...

Of course, yet we all do it. All of us. We are trying to take our ideas make them work. The only difference between rational and rationalizing is what we choose to ignore. Until then, we all rationalize because we have working paradigms. When those are sufficiently challenged, we...

"Now?" In the story, God waited until the knife. Realize in the story, Abraham is greatly conflicted, not a killer. When I was a child, age 8 I wanted to commit suicide (thank God He saved me). I held the knife to my stomach and started to push. It hurt. I stopped and cried out...

I've just yesterday eschewed 'pan-en-theism' as a descriptor. The largest reason is because it has locked into it, the idea that God 'is the world' (not reflexively) thus it is one step away from pantheism and problematic. Until yesterday, I'd have said my ideas were panentheistic in...

I appreciate that and have thought accordingly. Let me say at this point, that it goes much further than that because I'm still wrestling where others have already stopped. Good/bad? I believe good else I'm not after the pattern of the Bereans. I want to search a thing out. Part of...

I believe this my most important post in this thread and it marks a turning point of meaning and discussion. Rationalizing is important, we have to wrestle with ideas lest we understand shallowly or wrongly. How do we read "Now I know" without thinking through the implications? If, as OV...

I yet must reconcile 'in Christ' and 'in God' from scriptures. It cannot be ontological else God is physical but I yet must wrestle with 'in Him we live and move and have our being' which intimates at least our own physicality. I simply want to know God, know His word, and what He is...

Rather, I'm trying to go the scope of the thread: How much does God know before we do it and 'how' does He know it? I John 3:20 "God who is greater than our hearts, knows all things." Omniscience? Something like? How restricted? You said not until after we do something. How...

How? Like you know me? How well do you know me? How do you 'know?' Aren't we intimating at guesswork as such, at best?

It is a concordance given. Even 'if' you saw it as 'now,' how did God know even then? We rather are well-aware that God who is greater than our hearts, knows our hearts that you, yourself gave in thread. No? The Septuagint uses νῦν which also isn't exactly 'now' by necessity, but also...

Meh! At a certain point in my theology, the ideas of panentheism looked to coincide with my beliefs. Reading your links and further, especially this one, has to have me eschewing the term altogether. While I have identified, the term used at large, is heretical and cannot jive with...

"in" Him we live and move and have our being. I'm not going to rewrite scriptures. They will inform me rather. Understood. Guilty by association? While I don't mind early dismissal, I do want to get homework done. Does panentheism entail divergence? Yes. As such I may eschew...