‘Hope for Iowa': Iowa Churches to Distribute Bibles to Every Home in City

[Stuu]

You go too! You know instead of sitting here being negative day in and day out, creating misery, you could cancel your internet and use that money to feed a homeless person, you know do something of more value with your money, or are you just protesting too much?

The internet - Granite's, or anyone's - is a means that has the potential to help people come together for the betterment of everyone. Just by challenging the mindless dogmas here it could be argued that Granite is improving the human condition in some way or other.

On the other hand the giveaway bibles are an act of self-righteousness; really it's an act of collective bullying.

Stuart

 

[Granite]

That book has changed countless lives!

Giving it away to people who already have a home is a waste of energy time and money. These self-righteous know-nothings had a chance to do some actual good in the world. They didn't. Eighteen grand: Meals, roofs, bills, diapers; tangible effects on the needy.

A total, total, embarrassing waste. Thanks for nothing, folks.

 

[Angel4Truth]

The internet - Granite's, or anyone's - is a means that has the potential to help people come together for the betterment of everyone. Just by challenging the mindless dogmas here it could be argued that Granite is improving the human condition in some way or other.

Just by providing bibles, it could be argued that those churches are improving human conditions.

Granite is the one complaining about the money not spent on feeding people, well let him be the first to show example by getting rid of his internet and feeding them with the money he spends on it.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Says the ToL Gold Member ad hom troll!

You are bashing a much appreciated gift. What was that about trolling again? Seems the loudest complainers of what they didnt pay for - assume much about others.

 

[quip]

You are bashing a much appreciated gift. What was that about trolling again? Seems the loudest complainers of what they didnt pay for - assume much about others.

Given the prior context and current "gift" revelation....that's supremely rich coming from you! :chuckle:

You don't seem to think prior to opening your gob.
Quit giving credence to the typical blonde stereotype. :shadowmd:

 

[Angel4Truth]

Given the prior context and current "gift" revelation....that's sepremely rich coming from you! :chuckle:

You don't seem to think prior to opening your gob.
Quit giving credence to the typical blonde stereotype. :shadowmd:

You are an idiot and nothing but a troll.

 

[Delmar]

Giving it away to people who already have a home is a waste of energy time and money.

You believe that but you don't know that!

These self-righteous know-nothings had a chance to do some actual good in the world. They didn't.

You don't know that! You have no idea what the individuals involved did and do to help the needy. Claiming you know they did nothing shows you to be a liar.

Eighteen grand: Meals, roofs, bills, diapers; tangible effects on the needy.

A total, total, embarrassing waste. Thanks for nothing, folks.

I am not slightly embarrassed by what these Christians did, and neither are you. In fact, you seem to be delighted at the opportunity to trash them!

 

[quip]

You are an idiot and nothing but a troll.

Then I guess we both share much in common!

 

[Granite]

You believe that but you don't know that!

Sure I do. Or, put it another way: Is it better to give to someone with a home, or to a homeless person?

Stop acting dense or stubborn just because it's me.

You don't know that! You have no idea what the individuals involved did and do to help the needy. Claiming you know they did nothing shows you to be a liar.

They flushed about twenty grand down the toilet.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Sure I do.

You know what other things all those churches combined do to help others? Tell us. Tell us also how you know.

Tell us also how many people there own their homes, rent their homes, are living inside someone elses home, etc.. break it all down o master who knows all....

 

[Angel4Truth]

They flushed about twenty grand down the toilet.

And that is your sad opinion only, show us how its done better with your own money.

 

[journey]

Giving food, clothing, and shelter to the needy is wonderful, but this only addresses temporary needs. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Sharing God's Word with others addresses eternal needs. Some in this thread are lost, so it's very kind to share the Word of God with them. Many Christians try to address both temporary and eternal needs of others.

 

[Delmar]

Sure I do. Or, put it another way: Is it better to give to someone with a home, or to a homeless person?

Stop acting dense or stubborn just because it's me.



They flushed about twenty grand down the toilet.

Twenty grand is chump change if it led one person to read that book and know the love of Jesus Christ!

Not only that, how many thousands of ministries that feed the hungry, house the homeless, provide medicine for the sick, the have been started and run by people who were inspired by that book?

 

[Stuu]

Just by providing bibles, it could be argued that those churches are improving human conditions.

Here is the start of a list of essential human needs:

oxygen, water, warmth, food, shelter, social contact, physical safety...

Where down this list would you place the human need to know that you were born bad but are required to heal yourself by accepting a human sacrifice that involved nailing an ancient Jew to a tree?

Granite is the one complaining about the money not spent on feeding people, well let him be the first to show example by getting rid of his internet and feeding them with the money he spends on it.

If everyone did that it would be a disaster. The price of food would rise beyond the hope of the poorest to feed themselves. Much better would be to provide healthy chickens for breeding and eggs, grain for planting, and education. How much of that could have been sourced for $20,000?

Stuart

 

[gcthomas]

people who were inspired by that book?

Not by the book, but by the churches and society that wield the book.

Did you become a Christian because you read the book? I strongly suspect not. You would have been surrounded by people who offered social acceptance and familial reward for accepting their way of life and that included revering the book. The inspiration of the text most likely came after.

It is the selfless actions of Christians that will attract new followers, not the posting of bibles,which is a worthless, if harmless, action.

 

[Delmar]

Not by the book, but by the churches and society that wield the book.

Pretty hard to separate the massage of the book from the book don't you think?

Did you become a Christian because you read the book?

Some people have done exactly that! CS Lewis and Lee Strobel to name two.

I strongly suspect not. You would have been surrounded by people who offered social acceptance and familial reward for accepting their way of life and that included revering the book. The inspiration of the text most likely came after.

It is the selfless actions of Christians that will attract new followers, not the posting of bibles,which is a worthless, if harmless, action.

There is strong evidence that access to a Bible is in important part of the equation in many Christian conversion stories.

 

[Granite]

Twenty grand is chump change if it led one person to read that book and know the love of Jesus Christ!

Not only that, how many thousands of ministries that feed the hungry, house the homeless, provide medicine for the sick, the have been started and run by people who were inspired by that book?

We're not talking about anyone else other than these particular dopes who decided to waste their resources.

 

[Delmar]

We're not talking about anyone else other than these particular dopes who decided to waste their resources.

Your premise that they wasted their money is false.

 

[Granite]

Your premise that they wasted their money is false.

Given a choice between a sandwich for a homeless vet and a Bible for a homeowner, they chose the Bible. That's screwed up, plain and simple.

 

[journey]

Given a choice between a sandwich for a homeless vet and a Bible for a homeowner, they chose the Bible. That's screwed up, plain and simple.

Both can be done. Don't give any of your money for the Bibles and go feed all the people you want to.