17 Year Old Shot And Killed By Cop

glorydaz

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you are a liar now.

"Forensics supported the cops account.

By the way, in the video you can clearly see he doesn't kick the cell phone, he grabs it with his hand and tosses it"​

So, PJ can dish it out but he can't take it. This is getting so old. He reports A4T for saying he lies and calls A4T a liar with his next breath. She posts where the video clearly shows the cop did not "kick" the phone. But, of course, PJ, is above the law. He can say whatever he wants but no one else is allowed to. What a baby!
 

Mocking You

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Does it matter if the phone was kicked or thrown?

What about the fact that the head shot was a close-up shot and all the others were from "intermediate distance"? My take on that is that the head shot was the last shot. Think about it.

The report made no mention of the kid's knuckles being bruised or of any blood on the kid's fists. Wonder why?
 

patrick jane

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Does it matter if the phone was kicked or thrown?

What about the fact that the head shot was a close-up shot and all the others were from "intermediate distance"? My take on that is that the head shot was the last shot. Think about it.

The report made no mention of the kid's knuckles being bruised or of any blood on the kid's fists. Wonder why?

That is disturbing, about the shot trajectories. I was simply pointing out the phone thing because he did either kick or throw it, that may have pushed the kid over the edge that he was already on apparently. You know how kids love their phones.
 

patrick jane

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"Forensics supported the cops account.

By the way, in the video you can clearly see he doesn't kick the cell phone, he grabs it with his hand and tosses it"​

So, PJ can dish it out but he can't take it. This is getting so old. He reports A4T for saying he lies and calls A4T a liar with his next breath. She posts where the video clearly shows the cop did not "kick" the phone. But, of course, PJ, is above the law. He can say whatever he wants but no one else is allowed to. What a baby!

It was as harsh as a kick, instead he should have set the phone down or tell the kid to, while continuing to subdue him.
 

Mocking You

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That is disturbing, about the shot trajectories. I was simply pointing out the phone thing because he did either kick or throw it, that may have pushed the kid over the edge that he was already on apparently. You know how kids love their phones.

Actually, when I saw the video the first time that's exactly what I thought--Oh oh, the kid's phone was taken from him. There's gonna be trouble.
 

patrick jane

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Actually, when I saw the video the first time that's exactly what I thought--Oh oh, the kid's phone was taken from him. There's gonna be trouble.

In the end, my opinion is the kid made some dumb decisions, but the cop made worse decisions. Now knowing more of the back stories of both of them and the shots going downward, I stick with my first impressions. copper had a tude
 

patrick jane

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In all seriousness, we all new at 16 that when you get pulled over it's time to be serious. Stop giggling, talking, texting, stop moving around, get your papers together and listen to the cop. Pretty simple, all kids should know that some cops will ride you hard and be jerks perhaps.
 

Mocking You

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In the end, my opinion is the kid made some dumb decisions, but the cop made worse decisions. Now knowing more of the back stories of both of them and the shots going downward, I stick with my first impressions. copper had a tude

Agreed. The cop:

1.) went into the incident with a bad attitude.
2.) Incorrectly (and with paranoia) assumed the kid had called his militia buddies.
3.) Incorrectly used the taser gun by firing it too close to the kid.
4.) Didn't knee the kid in the back and cuff him when he had him face down.
5.) Embarrassingly got beat up by a juvenile.
6.) Had his gun jam.
7.) Shot the kid seven times, apparently the last one from very close range in the head.

Like you said earlier, pretty much "how not to conduct a traffic stop."
 

patrick jane

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Agreed. The cop:

1.) went into the incident with a bad attitude.
2.) Incorrectly (and with paranoia) assumed the kid had called his militia buddies.
3.) Incorrectly used the taser gun by firing it too close to the kid.
4.) Didn't knee the kid in the back and cuff him when he had him face down.
5.) Embarrassingly got beat up by a juvenile.
6.) Had his gun jam.
7.) Shot the kid seven times, apparently the last one from very close range in the head.

Like you said earlier, pretty much "how not to conduct a traffic stop."

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aikido7

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We could just demand that the incident be evaluated by Internal Affairs.
I have recently found out that all of the decisions and reports issued by IA investigators (in similar recent matters) assert that the policeman was not in the wrong.

We have to still stand up for what is right and fair and accords respect, dignity and justice to all.
 

glorydaz

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It was as harsh as a kick, instead he should have set the phone down or tell the kid to, while continuing to subdue him.

Oh, as "harsh as a kick". You said A4T was lying for saying it wasn't a kick. In other words, you will twist and squirm your way out of everything, and people better just get used to it. You're a joke, PJ....but you sure aren't funny.
 

Quetzal

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Did the cop make mistakes, of course. But all of this could have been solved by giving the cop his information. Or admitting he didn't have it and moving on. That's it. It would have been over.
 
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