glorydaz
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Sending nukes somewhere may very well be necessary.
I certainly don't support executing gays.
Those are two totally different things.
Are you ready to take Islam serious? Part 2.
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Sending nukes somewhere may very well be necessary.
I certainly don't support executing gays.
Those are two totally different things.
Arthur Brain
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On what reasoning? Sending a nuke attack into Mecca is completely unjustified and out of curiosity, have you ever seen "Threads"? Or even "The Day After"? Nuclear war is insane. the MAD acronym is so apt.
Fair enough on that, I didn't think that you did along with GM although the fact remains, plenty of your far right brethren do.
Sure they are although they're both extreme positions and ones that no moderate or rational person would advocate.
Barbarian observes:
Depends on which sect of Muslims they happen to be. Or maybe they just want freedom for everyone. Something like that.
Shiites are abused in Saudi Arabia and many other Sunni-majority areas. Sunnis are abused in Iran and many other Shiite-majority areas. Many Muslims are abused in areas of India. Burma is abusing their Muslim minority. Everyone abuses Sufis.
Alevis in Turkey are now facing discrimination against them by the Sunni leadership under Erdogan.
In the U.S., American Muslims are slightly less likely than Americans in general to advocate violence as a legitimate religious, social or poltical tactic.
In fact, Pew found that not only are Muslim-Americans increasingly anxious about Islamic extremism, they are also more likely than other Americans to say that violence can never be justified.
More than 8 in 10 American Muslims said they were at least somewhat concerned about global extremism in the name of Islam, a 10 percentage point increase from 2011, when Pew conducted a similar study.
Nearly 3 in 4 said there is little if any support for extremism among American Muslims. Just 6% said there is a great deal of support for it, and 11% said there is a "fair amount."
Likewise, more than 75% of American Muslims say violence can never be justified to further a religious, social or political cause. That's compared to 59% of Americans overall who said the same.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/us/pew-muslim-american-survey/index.html
So in that respect, at least, they are slightly more American than the average American. Keep in mind, American Muslims are not necessarily representative of all Muslims in the world. Many of them grew up here, accepting our culture of law and freedom, and others came here specifically because of that culture.
Depends on which sect of Muslims they happen to be. Or maybe they just want freedom for everyone. Something like that.
Shiites are abused in Saudi Arabia and many other Sunni-majority areas. Sunnis are abused in Iran and many other Shiite-majority areas. Many Muslims are abused in areas of India. Burma is abusing their Muslim minority. Everyone abuses Sufis.
Alevis in Turkey are now facing discrimination against them by the Sunni leadership under Erdogan.
In the U.S., American Muslims are slightly less likely than Americans in general to advocate violence as a legitimate religious, social or poltical tactic.
In fact, Pew found that not only are Muslim-Americans increasingly anxious about Islamic extremism, they are also more likely than other Americans to say that violence can never be justified.
More than 8 in 10 American Muslims said they were at least somewhat concerned about global extremism in the name of Islam, a 10 percentage point increase from 2011, when Pew conducted a similar study.
Nearly 3 in 4 said there is little if any support for extremism among American Muslims. Just 6% said there is a great deal of support for it, and 11% said there is a "fair amount."
Likewise, more than 75% of American Muslims say violence can never be justified to further a religious, social or political cause. That's compared to 59% of Americans overall who said the same.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/us/pew-muslim-american-survey/index.html
So in that respect, at least, they are slightly more American than the average American. Keep in mind, American Muslims are not necessarily representative of all Muslims in the world. Many of them grew up here, accepting our culture of law and freedom, and others came here specifically because of that culture.
Pretty much for the same reasons evil people everywhere abuse people of faith.
They want to force them to believe what they believe. Why do you think persecuted Muslims came to this country? Same reason my ancestors (and probably yours too) came to this country.
That's why American Muslims are less supportive of violence as a means of social, political, or religious change then most Americans are.
Greg Jennings
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I don't think you understand what nukes would do to the world
glorydaz
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Time to restart. The Supreme leader of Iran has now stood in front of the creator in judgment (his name is the Lord Jesus Christ) and it didn't go the way he planned. I mock him and laugh at his calamity. Muslims will and have already hit non-related targets that are allies to them. Sort of.
Derf
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Maybe not judged yet. that seems to come after resurrection.
The author of Hebrews (understudy of James and Peter?) said while inspired by the Holy Spirit, after death is the judgment. There are 2 judgments for all. One for believers in which Paul states to be absent from the body is present with the Lord. When we die it is determined immediately if we have eternal life or death. And those that shake his fist at him go to prison until the second resurrection. And yes, judgment to the lake of fire is after the second resurrection.
The author of Hebrews also verifies the man made Catholic doctrine of purgatory to be false. But that is a different thread.