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Defile The Temple
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good day, madam.
I Jn 1:7-10
7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
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7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
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I said
You said it yourself. Becoming Holy? Not yet holy but becoming holy.
You will never be without sin. You will always have a thorn, a sin.
I Jn 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
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Your in big deception if you don't know what your sin is. Because then you cant repent of it. If we repent of our sins we are forgiven. But we must repent of them. In order to do that we must know what they are.
2 Pet 3:9
9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
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If your not repenting daily, your sins are stacking up. I don't want any of mine to show up on judgment day.
1 Tim 5:24
24 Some men's sins are clearly evident, preceding them to judgment, but those of some men follow later.
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someone has lied to you. Think about it if your theory was right there would be no need for a judgment day. And we all know that is coming.
You just ignore inconvenient verses of Jesus.
He blot out your sins if you are truly committed to Him. Even after he blotted out all your sins at beginning of your faith, you still have to show your faithfulness to Him to the end.
You are only fooling yourself if you think you are sinless without your effort to be godly and pure.
popsthebuilder
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Knowing hypocricy is sin. Knowingly going against the will of GOD is sin. I sin knowingly. This is continued hypocricy and vanity.
I know very well of the atonement and neglect and negate and turn from it actively. Try?! What is it to think a thing, rather know a thing is utterly killing you and stripping your own potential to let more here of salvation and turn from self deceit and idolatry? What level of effort does it take to not actively kill yourself and turn from what you know to be true as if irrelevant?
Whatever miniscule amount it shouldn't take, I don't have. I used to have a strong will and have defeated many demons only to have them greet me eagerly once more jaws a nashin, ready to devour everything. I know to have patience and perseverance in the promises of GOD, but what good is patience if your perseverance is in idol worship unto death?
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Hypocrisy is continually justifying your sin.
popsthebuilder
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I meant hypocricy like saying one thing but doing another
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Will God help you get over something that is not a sin??? If you make things a sin to you that are not a sin. Your only deceiving yourself. And you have walked away from the truth. Now that is a sin.
popsthebuilder
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A thing that you are convicted of by the selfless conscience? Yes, why would GOD not allow one to enter into HIS rest? I must rest from my works with my hands that do rob the temple.
I'm sorry you can't seem to grasp that. You know as well as I do that knowing and doing are two wholly different things.
If one perceives a thing to be sin in their personal life and are convicted of it or shamed about it through he selfless conscience then that is sin to that person and you cannot change that just because it doesn't pertain to you.
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popsthebuilder
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What about sexual immorality Squeaky?
Is that sin to the one who perceives it as such?
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Is that sin to the one who perceives it as such?
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popsthebuilder
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If you aren't a trinitarian and you understand that we must be doers of the word and not only hearers, then how do you think there is no sin? Can not blasphemy of the Holy Spirit be likened to negating what one knows willingly, hypocricy. Doing other than the will of GOD which one knows by the Holy Spirit?
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popsthebuilder
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If I wasn't in sin then I would have joy and be at peace.
Do you too deny this?
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Do you too deny this?
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That is why we crucify our emotions because they convict us of anything just to gain control.
popsthebuilder
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Seems to me that the sacrifice is to be of the wants of the flesh- greed- placing anything above or before the percievable will of GOD- idol worship, making the self sacrifice of the Christ for the sake of all to no effect in ones own life, crucifying Him repeatedly though He paid and atoned for the sins of all but once.
Greed isn't technically an emotion to me. But it is sin or more specifically; the root cause there of.
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popsthebuilder
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So if sexual immorality is sin and does not come out of the mouth as words do, th3n it stands to reason that sin is not limited to ones words, but indeed includes actions or deeds as well. Right?
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Greed is an emotion. Paul said it best, when he was in your situation.
Rom 7:8-25
8 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead.
9 I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me.
12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.
13 Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful.
14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do.
16 If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good.
17 But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find.
19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice.
20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
21 I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good.
22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?
25 I thank God-- through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.
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popsthebuilder
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Again we seem to be in some form of agreement though we still argue about a single word.
Are we not to enter rest? Are we not to find peace if we are indeed right with GOD?
peace
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