ECT Do you see All, Some, None of the Spiritual Gifts in Operation Today?

[oatmeal]

Oatmeal said recently that he was a member of the Way International. You'll have to Google for more information. He does reject that Jesus Christ is God.

I am a follower of the Way, the lord Jesus Christ.

God rejects that Jesus Christ is God.

Jesus Christ rejects that he is God.

Jesus Christ is not "God the Son" but he is the son of God.

Take your time, think about it.

There is no trinity

Be gentle on yourself, there is no condemnation. Romans 8:1, I Corinthians 12:1-2

 

[oatmeal]

Way International had multiple warnings of being a really really bad theology for many years. It tears and tears Jesus to spreads.

In your opinion.

God's word says differently

 

[oatmeal]

They are a faded, never impactful, pseudo-Christian cult.

http://www.watchman.org/profiles/pdf/wayprofile.pdf

The Deity of Christ (they deny) is an acid test of biblical Christianity.

In your opinions.

Jesus is not God the son, he is the son of God

It is clear you have not yet learned the difference

 

[heir]

In your opinions.

Jesus is not God the son, he is the son of God

It is clear you have not yet learned the difference

You're an idiot.

God, Himself a lamb

Genesis 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.


John 1:36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!

God, Himself a lamb

 

[TulipBee]

In your opinion.

God's word says differently

You say, "No tongues means no salvation."

I say God didn’t say that.

What's opinion got to do with this?

 

[heir]

I am a follower of the Way, the lord Jesus Christ.

That should say Lord, should it not?

God rejects that Jesus Christ is God.

Jesus Christ rejects that he is God.

Jesus Christ is not "God the Son" but he is the son of God.

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Philippians 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Philippians 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Philippians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

Take your time, think about it.

no, you.

There is no trinity

Yes, there is, but you deny the truth.

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

 

[Lazy afternoon]

I'm inclined to the view that the present day churches have fallen away and lost their purpose. They hide themselves off from the world, their members remain ignorant of their own faith - falling back on reciting doctrine rather than studying the scriptures, they place the emphasis on believing the right thing rather than doing the right thing - and even condemn those who teach that we, as Christians, are required to be out there doing God's will. I've even known a pastor who told a pastor in training not to baptize the poor that they were ministering too - saying that they were permanently lost and had made their decision - even as they were asking to be baptized.

The time has come to withdraw from these dying husks and focus on doing the work that God has set before us: help those in need, make disciples - teaching them to follow God's Commands, and keep ourselves pure from the taint of the world. I believe it is people like this who God chooses to bless with his gifts. These gifts, after all, are meant to enable the church to do God's will - but God isn't going to give such gifts to people who have demonstrated themselves untrustworthy when given nothing.

I agree wholeheartedly.

LA

 

[Lazy afternoon]

You're an idiot.

God, Himself a lamb

Genesis 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.


John 1:36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!

God, Himself a lamb

I have heard that ridiculous argument for many years.

Abraham said God would provide a lamb for Himself.

The Lamb God provided was His son , not Himself.

LA

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

I have heard that ridiculous argument for many years.

Abraham said God would provide a lamb for Himself.

The Lamb God provided was His son , not Himself.

LA

Acts 20:28 (KJV)

 

[Lazy afternoon]

Acts 20:28 (KJV)

Acts 20:28b
Be shepherds of the Church of God, which he bought with his own blood. (NIV)


1. There are some Greek manuscripts that read “the church of the Lord” instead of “the church of God.” Many Trinitarian scholars believe that “Lord” is the original reading, because there is no mention anywhere in the Bible of God having blood. If the Greek manuscripts that read “Lord” are the original ones, then the “problem” is solved. However, it is the belief of the authors that good textual research shows that “the church of God” is the correct reading.

2. Both the American Bible Society and the Institute For New Testament Research in Germany (which produces the Nestle-Aland Greek text) agree that the manuscript evidence supports the reading tou haimatios tou idiou, literally, the blood of His own (Son), and not idiou haimatios, “his own blood.” God paid for our salvation with the blood of His own Son, Jesus Christ.

3. The text note at the bottom of the very Trinitarian NIV Study Bible gets the meaning of the verse correct: “his own blood. Lit. ‘the blood of his own one,’ a term of endearment (such as ‘his own dear one’) referring to His own Son.”


http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/verses/acts-20-28b

Do some research instead of following your religion.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Acts 20:28b
Be shepherds of the Church of God, which he bought with his own blood. (NIV)


1. There are some Greek manuscripts that read “the church of the Lord” instead of “the church of God.” Many Trinitarian scholars believe that “Lord” is the original reading, because there is no mention anywhere in the Bible of God having blood. If the Greek manuscripts that read “Lord” are the original ones, then the “problem” is solved. However, it is the belief of the authors that good textual research shows that “the church of God” is the correct reading.

2. Both the American Bible Society and the Institute For New Testament Research in Germany (which produces the Nestle-Aland Greek text) agree that the manuscript evidence supports the reading tou haimatios tou idiou, literally, the blood of His own (Son), and not idiou haimatios, “his own blood.” God paid for our salvation with the blood of His own Son, Jesus Christ.

3. The text note at the bottom of the very Trinitarian NIV Study Bible gets the meaning of the verse correct: “his own blood. Lit. ‘the blood of his own one,’ a term of endearment (such as ‘his own dear one’) referring to His own Son.”


http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/verses/acts-20-28b

Do some research instead of following your religion.

The ole switcheroo, you can find a version to agree with anything you want to believe.

 

[john w]

The ole switcheroo, you can find a version to agree with anything you want to believe.

Yes, her "doctrine" determines what the book should say, and, if it does not, she finds a source/version/translation that does, or corrects that source, to agree with her "doctrine," as that presupposes an authority over the book.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Yes, her "doctrine" deterrmines what the book should say.

Romans 3:25 (KJV)

Context, God had faith in his own blood.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Yes, her "doctrine" determines what the book should say, and, if it does not, she finds a source/version/translation that does, or corrects that source, to agree with her "doctrine," as that presupposes an authority over the book.

Pure Breenism.

 

[john w]

Pure Breenism.

You take off on the Rev. Breen? I cain't do him...he talks like everyone else.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

You take off on the Rev. Breen? I cain't do him...he talks like everyone else.

I can only take off on Edward G. Robinson and Fred G. Sanford.

 

[Lazy afternoon]

Romans 3:25 (KJV)

Context, God had faith in his own blood.

Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;


Heb 13:20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

LA

 

[john w]

I can only take off on Edward G. Robinson and Fred G. Sanford.

So, your girl friend's name is Elizabeth? Make sure you don't have "the big one!"

Saint John M W, and the "M" is for "modest."

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Who's righteousness?
Who's righteous blood did Judas betray?

Crickets...

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

So, your girl friend's name is Elizabeth? Make sure you don't have "the big one!"

Saint John M W, and the "M" is for "modest."

Lamont, you big dummy!