Evidence the Spacestation footage is also FAKED

Nazaroo

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Check out some of the amazing footage examined here,
which is certainly eye-opening:

Spacestation Footage Faked


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt_qySI10VI

clinching for me was her hairsprayed fake anti-gravity hair.
and the behaviour of supposedly free-floating objects,
although the hidden wires were good too.

As a physicist, I had to laugh at the lack of any evidence
of accumulating damage by high speed micro-meteors,
and complete lack of precautions in case of air-leaks,
which wasn't even discussed in video.
 

Nazaroo

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How do you know that you are deceived when you are deceived?

One can know one is deceived without knowing the details or how.

I can notice my bank account is empty without knowing
what hidden charges and fees were slapped against it and when.

I don't need to wait for a bank statement to know I'm broke.
 

Nick M

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So Elon Musk is wasting millions when he decides to build a rocket to land rather than fall to earth. You should call and let him know he can stop squandering his money he made selling his company to Ebay.
 

CabinetMaker

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A years worth of YouTube research and he reaches exactly the conclusions he started with. What an idiot.
 

Nazaroo

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A years worth of YouTube research and he reaches exactly the conclusions he started with.

Perhaps if out of control agencies like NASA
stopped blowing billions of dollars on sending 12 rich white kids to the moon
to play golf,
rather than say actually photographing space from essentially a 60 billion dollar platform,

and had concentrated instead on at least spending enough money
and expertise on producing convincing fakes,
it wouldn't be so easy to expose them with a few simple youtube videos.

When you blow all your stolen cash on pedophile rings in the Bahamas,
its not surprising that the clowns you left back at the office to sell the public
did a p-poor job of it unsupervised, with inadequate funds.


But I wouldn't write off youtube and the internet so quickly in any case.
It has replaced 'mainstream' media precisely because people are tired of bs.
 

CabinetMaker

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Perhaps if out of control agencies like NASA
stopped blowing billions of dollars on sending 12 rich white kids to the moon
to play golf,
rather than say actually photographing space from essentially a 60 billion dollar platform,

and had concentrated instead on at least spending enough money
and expertise on producing convincing fakes,
it wouldn't be so easy to expose them with a few simple youtube videos.

When you blow all your stolen cash on pedophile rings in the Bahamas,
its not surprising that the clowns you left back at the office to sell the public
did a p-poor job of it unsupervised, with inadequate funds.


But I wouldn't write off youtube and the internet so quickly in any case.
It has replaced 'mainstream' media precisely because people are tired of bs.
NASA didn't fake anything. You and others of your ilk distort and misrepresent truth for your own purposes. Odd thing is, nobody knows what your agenda is.

As a physicist, you should understand why and how the reentry capsule is stable during reentry. At its most basic, the heat shield is the heaviest item on the capsule and it is located below the center of mass. As a physicist, can you tell us how something that is heavier on one end will orient itself in a gravitational field?
 

Nazaroo

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NASA didn't fake anything. ...
Odd thing is, nobody knows what your agenda is.

As a physicist, you should understand why and how the reentry capsule is stable during reentry.

If you think for one minute that you can predict both
which way up it will be at all times,
and the stability of a falling craft,
based on its weight distribution (which you don't have any docs for),
you have no grasp of physics at all.



Tell me which side this coin will land on, under zero wind conditions.

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Better yet, tell me how you think a weighted dice works.
Ask yourself if you as an astronaut would get in a capsule
which will orient itself on reentry based on crude approximate probabilities.


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Even better, consult any other physicist and ask him about
the probabilities of weighted dice under controlled conditions,
and just how much you'd have to unbalance the weight of an object,
and what shape it would have to be,
to guarantee say a 90% chance it will fall right-side up.

METHODS OF WEIGHTING DICE




Let me know if it looks ANYTHING like a space capsule.

At its most basic, the heat shield is the heaviest item on the capsule and it is located below the center of mass. As a physicist, can you tell us how something that is heavier on one end will orient itself in a gravitational field?
Yes.

As a physicist I can guarantee that you cannot predict how an object
such as a space capsule will orient itself at any time during its freefall,
if you have no method for correcting it rapidly as it falls,
when it has to fall through the Westerlies and/or the Jetstream
and other random weather,
and it is creating a backwash of superheated air ahead of itself.

The reason airplanes have stability in flight even in windy weather,
is that they cut through the air with little resistance in the direction of flight,
due to HUGE STABILIZING WINGS and an aerodynamic shape
designed to travel in a SINGLE DIRECTION at very HIGH SPEED.

Any plane knocked off-direction from its intended design of travel
will have a high chance of spinning out of control and crashing
in a random orientation.
 
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CabinetMaker

Member of the 10 year club on TOL!!
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If you think for one minute that you can predict both
which way up it will be at all times,
and the stability of a falling craft,
based on its weight distribution (which you don't have any docs for),
you have no grasp of physics at all.

Tell me which side this coin will land on, under zero wind conditions.

Better yet, tell me how you think a weighted dice works.
Ask yourself if you as an astronaut would get in a capsule
which will orient itself on reentry based on crude approximate probabilities.

Even better, consult any other physicist and ask him about
the probabilities of weighted dice under controlled conditions,
and just how much you'd have to unbalance the weight of an object,
and what shape it would have to be,
to guarantee say a 90% chance it will fall right-side up.

Let me know if it looks ANYTHING like a space capsule.




Yes.

As a physicist I can guarantee that you cannot predict how an object
such as a space capsule will orient itself at any time during its freefall,
if you have no method for correcting it rapidly as it falls,
when it has to fall through the Westerlies and/or the Jetstream
and other random weather,
and it is creating a backwash of superheated air ahead of itself.

Wow. You are attempting to state that a coin is analogous to a space capsule. A coin has essentially uniform weight distribution. A space capsule was designed specifically to maintain proper orientation during reentry. You are a terrible physicist.

As to documents, have you tried Google? They are some good links to reputable sites with good information regarding the stability of reentry vehicles.
 

fzappa13

Well-known member
Check out some of the amazing footage examined here,
which is certainly eye-opening:

Spacestation Footage Faked


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt_qySI10VI

clinching for me was her hairsprayed fake anti-gravity hair.
and the behaviour of supposedly free-floating objects,
although the hidden wires were good too.

As a physicist, I had to laugh at the lack of any evidence
of accumulating damage by high speed micro-meteors,
and complete lack of precautions in case of air-leaks,
which wasn't even discussed in video.

Loved the hairspray. While we are on the subject of manufactured realities, you're missing a really fun thread here:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106376
 

Nazaroo

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Wow. You are attempting to state that a coin is analogous to a space capsule. A coin has essentially uniform weight distribution.

Yes, both the coin and capsule have similar weight distribution,
and aerodynamic shapes.

But the anomalies in the shape and weight of the capsule
appear to create instability, not predictability on reentry
under real life conditions.

A space capsule was designed specifically to maintain proper orientation during reentry.

This is a claim made about the capsule,
and also about scientific progress in 1968.

Any fool can make that claim.

Lets see the scientific evidence that the capsule was actually designed
and tested for stability.

And lets not forget,
if it actually WAS designed with that as a priority,
it would be then useless as a capsule for spaceflight,
and for human habitation, and for exploration while in space.


have you tried Google? They are some good links to reputable sites with good information regarding the stability of reentry vehicles.

Another foolish claim.

You are making the claim about stability.
You provide the proofs and we'll see if they hold up.
 

chair

Well-known member
...
As a physicist, I had to laugh at the lack of any evidence
of accumulating damage by high speed micro-meteors,
and complete lack of precautions in case of air-leaks,
which wasn't even discussed in video.

I watched a bit of this. Many assertions. No real evidence that I saw.

What would be the point of this giant conspiracy anyhow.

I once asked a colleague (originally from Russia) about the fake lunar landing. He looked at me like I was nuts. "if it was faked, belive me the Soviets woudl lhave known it and told the world about it".
 

Nazaroo

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I watched a bit of this. Many assertions. No real evidence that I saw.

They successfully raised doubts, which is the start of any investigation.


What would be the point of this giant conspiracy anyhow.

I'd say that would be getting ahead of yourself.

May as well ask,
What would be the point of shooting Kennedy anyhow.



I once asked a colleague (originally from Russia) about the fake lunar landing. He looked at me like I was nuts. "if it was faked, belive me the Soviets woudl lhave known it and told the world about it".

So an anecdotal unverifiable quote from an unknown non-scientist
is your idea of scientific investigation?
 

User Name

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So an anecdotal unverifiable quote from an unknown non-scientist
is your idea of scientific investigation?

Name just one accomplished physicist or engineer who asserts that space station footage or the moon landings were faked.
 

chair

Well-known member
...
So an anecdotal unverifiable quote from an unknown non-scientist
is your idea of scientific investigation?

His thought is relevant, though you choose to brush it off.

I have seen nothing to justify a scientific investigation.Just some guy's assertions in a youtube video.

You want to investigate- go ahead. Let us know how it comes out.
 

Nazaroo

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Name just one accomplished physicist or engineer who asserts that space station footage or the moon landings were faked.

nice fake log-on name.

Naming authorities is not science.

Science is.

Authoritarianism instead of science is no better than
guilt by association and slander.
 

User Name

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Naming authorities is not science.

Science is.

Authoritarianism instead of science is no better than
guilt by association and slander.

It isn't authoritarianism to defer to experts in their respective fields for their opinions on matters pertaining to those fields.
 
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