You're a "Calvinist Puppet" that's all!
ECT Heretical Teaching of the Word-Faith Movement
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You're a "Calvinist Puppet" that's all!
I take that you support word faith movement unless you're a troll changing the subject of this topic.
Yeah, you're a troll. Carry on.
musterion
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No. God preordained me to give you only the word witchcraft. You flout His sovereign will asking for another. By the authority of Augustine, cease your calumny, yea verily.
Its your own sin that made you yell out witchcraft to those that takes hight blood pressure medicine or cancer curing drugs. Back then they burn those that mix herbs to heal others. You jumped on withcraft cause a little bird told you to. Kundulini awakenings isn't witchcraft either. Its ok for word of faith to get extra sensitive and alter their brains to flap like a fish on the floor and moo like cows and babble where no one can translate it. All that is one big emotional soup of cry babies that can't tame themselves. It doesnt make them witches like the little bird told you. You ought to catch that bird and make yourself a chick fa la sandwich with arminian pickles.
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andyc
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None of this has anything to do with word faith. I see you rejecting people here.
andyc
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andyc
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The thread is about word faith, but people are attacking preachers, not the actual teaching.
People can take a truth so far to the extreme that it moves into heresy, but the mistake is to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Saved.One.by.Grace
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I understand why you choose to believe that. But to the contrary, I am only rejecting the false gospel they present to the sheep who blindly follow them instead of the Good Shepard. And the gospel they preach is not good news. It is a gospel for the worldly. It is seductive and takes away from the glory of God so your eyes are fixed on the things of this world instead of Jesus. The things of this world are perishable. Jesus was, is and is to come for all time and beyond time.
andyc
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So you're against the desire to pursue earthly riches and pleasures.
This is not word faith.
andyc
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Much of word faith teaching is base around Mark 11:23.
"For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says.
When this is balanced with verses such as James 4:2-3, there is a powerful truth here that word faith people have latched on to strongly.
"For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says.
When this is balanced with verses such as James 4:2-3, there is a powerful truth here that word faith people have latched on to strongly.
Saved.One.by.Grace
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If the Word-Faith Movement was still pure and without self-centered desires, Jesus words would be abounding in society with miracles happening on a regular ongoing basis. What has robbed God of His Glory, is people like Pat Robertson who claim that their prayers caused a hurricane to change track sparing his residence. The fact is a lot of Christians were killed by that hurricane. Should I blame God or Pat Robertson? Think about it.
musterion
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I had a guy (who is into the whole NAR scene) tell me God has essentially blinded me from seeing the limb restorations and raising of stone-cold corpses that's going on ALL THE TIME AROUND THE WORLD. The reason he said God has blinded me? Because I asked for video evidence of the claims, none of which exists. He said God only allows those with faith to see it, to see it.
Andy is a milder case of the same basic contagion: Scripture < Experience.
andyc
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This has nothing to do with word faith.
You are again focusing on media ministers.
I'm beginning to think that you have been sucked into the world of media ministers, and have become demoralized by what seems like a circus. Basically I never watch any of them, not because I hate them, but because they do nothing for me. However, I'm still going to believe that Jesus said "you shall have whatsoever you say", not because Hagin made it popular, or copeland has written books on it, but because the word says it.
The devil likes to disarm the power of the word, using whatever method necessary.
andyc
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Actually, scripture + Faith = experience.
You see, even if I never ever saw anything, I'd still believe it because the word says it.
Saved.One.by.Grace
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I am focusing on ministers I have seen in person. That list includes Joyce Meyer, Hilton Sutton, Charles Capps, and others I'd rather forget. My wife tells me when she had hands laid on her from the "Happy Hunters" and she didn't swoon, she got hit in the head so she went down on her knees.
In my Blog, I talk about my conversion experience at Silver Dollar City while a gunsmith was telling his conversion experience (much more dramatic than mine) and I knew, sure as I'm typing this, that he was speaking the truth. I could tangibly feel the Holy Spirit in the room. I rarely felt that at the non-denomination church my wife and I would later be members of, even when hands were laid on me. You judge me because I don't fit your preconceived stereotype. This is your problem not mine.
The unconscious mind can believe while the conscience mind don't know it. Humans use 10% of thier brain but the TOL'ers think they use 98% of the brains and get their theology wrong based on imaginations and wolves
andyc
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I'm not judging you at all. I'm just not seeing anything against the teaching of word faith. You are using the title of a specific doctrine to come against the practices of certain media ministers.
So if I told you that I am a proponent of "word faith", what does that mean to you?
You would seem to interpret this as someone who's plugged into TBN and watches the likes of Creflo Dollar and Kenneth Copeland.
Saved.One.by.Grace
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The word-faith teachers I have been around tend to take scriptures out of context to suit their needs. I am a strong proponent of expository teaching. You let the scriptures say what they say, and if interpretation is needed, I let scriptures interpret scriptures, in context. This is why I prefer the teaching of someone like John MacArthur, and others like him. The sponsored Southern Baptist Church teacher who left St. Charles, Mo. for Kansas City, Mo. was like that. It was a small, intimate church where I believed my wife and I could have really grown in. But God's plans come first, and I would not have it any other way.