Tattooed Theist
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Then why would they not read text hermenuetically, like - I would argue - virtually every biblical scholar?
ECT If MAD is False What Does Hebrews 6:4-6 Mean for Us?
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Then why would they not read text hermenuetically, like - I would argue - virtually every biblical scholar?
Yes, and according to OT prophecy, of which the gospels and first part of Acts are a continuation.
The great divide is Covenantalism(metaphorical hermeneutic- imposed paradigm) versus Dispensationalism(literal, historical, grammatical hermeneutic- exegeted paradigm).
Acclaimed Biblical scholars on both sides.
themuzicman
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Partakers of the Holy Spirit (nice try on changing the text).
And yes.
Because they were raised in good Jewish homes, and were continuing to do what they had always done.
themuzicman
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Might be difficult to return if you consciously reject faith in Christ.
Hi and Eph 4:5 says ONE BAPTISM , is that what the KJV says ?
The Greek word that is used in Eph 4:5 is not BAPTISM but is BAPTISMA which means some one who BAPTIZES and that is ONLY the Holy Spirit , like Rom 6:3 and verse 4 have nothing to do with WATER !!
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musterion
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But he's such a good Jewish boy, a real mensch!
SaulToPaul 2
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At the end, they'd be partakers of Christ.
Were those he was referring to actually crucifying Christ again?
No.
He is referring to those who witnessed that first hand but still rejected Him as yet future; as not the Christ the Law and the Prophets did say should come.
He is referring to their having rejected the Lord's continued miracles working in the Twelve, et al, as a further confirmation that He was the Christ.
It was over for them; there would be no repeat of His first coming; they would die yet in their sins still clinging to doctrines that had pointed to Him.
The writer of Hebrews is writing of those who tasted - saw all that, but rejected it, in contrast to the believing remnant of Israel he is writing to encourage to stand their ground in the midst of such a falling away of their nation.
Said believing remnant were in contrast to these...
Acts 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye. 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers: 7:53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it. 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
Right Divider
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That's correct. Churchianity thinks that they are "graft in" to Israel or need to be (or are "spiritual Israel"). The list goes on and on.
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Very nice use of FALLACIOUS logic dodge.
Paul says that there is ONE baptism and here we have BAPTISMS.
You're all wet.
Right Divider
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Right Divider
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And to WHOM it was said.... Israel. :thumb:
About as major as the foolhardiness of your posting that absent of who it is you are responding to :chuckle:
heir
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It doesn't say "it might be difficult to return if...". It says it is IMPOSSIBLE for them, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance!
Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Hebrews 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Hebrews 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Tattooed Theist
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I respect their intelligence to know that who I was speaking to for roughly an hour can put together the pieces that it was for him :cheers:
Tattooed Theist
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I'm in the REAL church, hombre.... :loser:It means go join a real church, hombre