The coronavirus scam

Arthur Brain

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A damning indictment of Trump in this documentary on the BBC:

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A brief overview on youtube


There'll still be some MAGA! cranks that will give Donnie a free pass no matter what but this is appalling...
 

The Barbarian

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25 Ways the Shutdown Kills People

Don't liberals care about saving lives?

Since the coronavirus first slammed the brakes on the U.S. economy in March, policymakers have tried to weigh the cost of keeping people safe against the potentially disastrous consequences of putting millions out of work in a country with a meager social safety net.

A group of economists has compared these scenarios in a working
paper issued earlier this month and come down squarely on the side of the shutdown: Closing down the economy saved between 900,000 and 2.7 million U.S. lives, they conclude.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-economy-shutdown-coronavirus-saved-2-7-million-lives/

That pretty much matches other studies:

COVID-19 Shutdowns Saved Millions of Lives
The two studies used different methods but reached similar conclusions. One study, published by a team of U.S. researchers, calculated that lockdowns prevented more than 60 million infections in the U.S. The other study, published by the Imperial College London COVID-19 Response Team, calculated that shutdowns saved more than 3 million lives across Europe.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200609/covid-19-shutdowns-saved-millions
 

annabenedetti

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Since the coronavirus first slammed the brakes on the U.S. economy in March, policymakers have tried to weigh the cost of keeping people safe against the potentially disastrous consequences of putting millions out of work in a country with a meager social safety net.

A group of economists has compared these scenarios in a working
paper issued earlier this month and come down squarely on the side of the shutdown: Closing down the economy saved between 900,000 and 2.7 million U.S. lives, they conclude.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-economy-shutdown-coronavirus-saved-2-7-million-lives/

That pretty much matches other studies:

COVID-19 Shutdowns Saved Millions of Lives
The two studies used different methods but reached similar conclusions. One study, published by a team of U.S. researchers, calculated that lockdowns prevented more than 60 million infections in the U.S. The other study, published by the Imperial College London COVID-19 Response Team, calculated that shutdowns saved more than 3 million lives across Europe.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200609/covid-19-shutdowns-saved-millions

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The Barbarian

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During the first COVID-19 surge of the spring, the mantra was “Flatten the curve”—to buy time, using every tool available.

Seven months later, it’s possible to measure what that time has bought: The death rate for COVID-19 has fallen dramatically. Hospitals in most places are not overburdened, and treatments are improving in many small but cumulative ways. In one
study of patients hospitalized in a New York City health system, the adjusted death rate fell from 25.6 percent in March, at the pandemic’s onset, to 7.6 percent in August.

This change cannot be explained by COVID-19 patients getting younger and healthier. The study’s authors adjusted the mortality rates for age and other risk factors. “People should take this as validation of all the hard work and sacrifices they have been making,” says Leora Horwitz, an internist and the study’s lead author. “It has made a difference.” Similar patterns hold
throughout New York City and in the U.K., and they underscore the reason for flattening the curve. The longer we can prevent infections, the better prepared we will be to treat the people that might eventually get it.

What was true about flattening the curve in March is still true now. As the U.S. faces a third coronavirus surge, Horwitz warns that “these numbers are not static.” We are still learning about how to treat COVID-19, and truly game-changing therapies have yet to arrive. When hospitals become overburdened—as they are starting to in
El Paso, Utah, Wisconsin—death rates may rise again. The axiom from the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic still applies today. “If I have to choose to have it, probably the later, the better,” says Sanja Jelic, a pulmonologist at Columbia University Medical Center.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/...ing-covid-19/616919/?utm_source=pocket-newtab
 

The Barbarian

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Yesterday 132,000 new cases, and nearly a thousand deaths. It's out of control, again. And for two months we have a president who has surrendered to the virus.
 

Arthur Brain

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Yesterday 132,000 new cases, and nearly a thousand deaths. It's out of control, again. And for two months we have a president who has surrendered to the virus.

As by his own admission, he never cared about how this thing would affect so many people but was more interested in lying about it to the American people and downplaying it despite knowing how serious it was from the early stages, not to mention enjoying doing so. If any president deserves to get utterly booted out of office...
 

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Anyone who thinks virus caseloads depend on who is in the White House is a moron.
 

The Barbarian

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As by his own admission, he never cared about how this thing would affect so many people but was more interested in lying about it to the American people and downplaying it despite knowing how serious it was from the early stages, not to mention enjoying doing so. If any president deserves to get utterly booted out of office...

The irony is that by seeking to look after his own interests rather than the interests of the American people, he likely caused his own defeat. If he had told us the truth, and followed the advice of people who actually knew what they were talking about, America would have lined up behind him instead of rejecting him.
 

eider

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Yesterday 132,000 new cases, and nearly a thousand deaths. It's out of control, again.............................................

The virus is skyrocketing in the UK and Europe, as well as the US.

I don't think we've seen the worst of it yet. And it is mutating in to other species (such as mink) and thus being able to re-infect folks who were thought to be immune.

What's the definition of a plague?
 

eider

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Thank God for President Biden who knows exactly how to stop this!

(although he couldn't actually tell us how during the election)

Ah!
The tribalists can change their tune now, I guess?

Nobody knows how to stop this yet.
Even vaccinations may prove to be difficult because the virus is mutating.

What was so strange in the past was Trump's attitude and ignorance, and carelessness. And now you can count the cost...... and blame Biden! How obtuse, and crank.

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