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The Late Great Urantia Revelation
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freelight
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Oh Dear......
Oh Dear......
Another 'cult-alert' article on the UB,....btw, Martin Gardner's critical book 'Urantia: The Great Cult Mystery' has been responded to by Meredith J Sprunger here. Also, the 'sleeping subject' is still a mystery. Martin only offers his opinion of who it was, as does anyone else, and its reported he has never even read the papers in their entirety. His amazon.com review gets 2 1/2 stars out of 36 reviewers here. All full UB editions get 4 1/2 or 5 star ratings here - go figure.
Another claim:
First of all, the UB does NOT teach that Jesus is Michael the archangel. We've gone thru this earlier here on Creator Sons, who are of the order of Michael. Creator Sons are also called 'Michaels', there is more than one. There is no association with Christ-Michael with the traditional-orthodox Judeo-Christian identity of an single archangel named 'Michael',...although the names have been confused over the centuries.
I've also already already addressed the claim that the UB rejects the deity of Jesus Christ here. The papers fully hold that Jesus was both God and Man,...the Son of God and Son of Man. The Christology is different due to the divine hierarchy, cosmic revelation and Deity orders and associations revealed in the papers. Just like the NT has its own terms, meanings and definitions...which were further defined by various church councils, theologians and different schools of thought.
Its still somewhat comical that there is some 'cult' to escape here,...when we're discussing a BOOK. A book is not a cult, neither is there is an official church, organization, fundamental sect or 'cult' that is sponsored or encouraged by the book, as it actually speaks against 'cults' in their negative aspects and potentials....encouraging intellectual and spiritual freedom of every individual to seek the truth for himself, and of course he can gather with like minded souls to form communities to serve the higher good and others, as the gospel presented in the papers is very 'social' in orientation, very family oriented,...encouraging healthy family units and the greater human family under the Fatherhood of God. It recognizes and fosters relationships. All the truths, principles and concepts in the papers serve man's motivation towards spiritual progress and God-consciousness....since that's what life is about....and much more.
Oh Dear......
Another 'cult-alert' article on the UB,....btw, Martin Gardner's critical book 'Urantia: The Great Cult Mystery' has been responded to by Meredith J Sprunger here. Also, the 'sleeping subject' is still a mystery. Martin only offers his opinion of who it was, as does anyone else, and its reported he has never even read the papers in their entirety. His amazon.com review gets 2 1/2 stars out of 36 reviewers here. All full UB editions get 4 1/2 or 5 star ratings here
- go figure.Another claim:
First of all, the UB does NOT teach that Jesus is Michael the archangel. We've gone thru this earlier here on Creator Sons, who are of the order of Michael. Creator Sons are also called 'Michaels', there is more than one. There is no association with Christ-Michael with the traditional-orthodox Judeo-Christian identity of an single archangel named 'Michael',...although the names have been confused over the centuries.
I've also already already addressed the claim that the UB rejects the deity of Jesus Christ here. The papers fully hold that Jesus was both God and Man,...the Son of God and Son of Man. The Christology is different due to the divine hierarchy, cosmic revelation and Deity orders and associations revealed in the papers. Just like the NT has its own terms, meanings and definitions...which were further defined by various church councils, theologians and different schools of thought.
Its still somewhat comical that there is some 'cult' to escape here,...when we're discussing a BOOK. A book is not a cult, neither is there is an official church, organization, fundamental sect or 'cult' that is sponsored or encouraged by the book, as it actually speaks against 'cults' in their negative aspects and potentials....encouraging intellectual and spiritual freedom of every individual to seek the truth for himself, and of course he can gather with like minded souls to form communities to serve the higher good and others, as the gospel presented in the papers is very 'social' in orientation, very family oriented,...encouraging healthy family units and the greater human family under the Fatherhood of God. It recognizes and fosters relationships. All the truths, principles and concepts in the papers serve man's motivation towards spiritual progress and God-consciousness....since that's what life is about....and much more.
Hey, Freelight, whatever you do, don't forget that the UB is a "UFO Cult?" Try to remember that? Say it ten times a day for one month in front of a mirror preferably?
Relay the message to Caino.
Don't forget to shop at "UFOsRus" They have some fine deals going on this month. Some items are 1/2 off the sticker price!
Oh neat!
Lon
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Not just UFO, but occultic séance and possession!
From the Link:
| THE URANTIA BOOK... in line with other mediumistic revelations, it is dead-set against...Christian doctrines, including the inerrancy of Scripture, simple Trinitarianism, the Fall of man, original sin, the substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ, faith and repentance for salvation, the resurrection of the flesh, and eternal punishment.THE URANTIA BOOK records Jesus telling his disciple Nathaniel, "The Scriptures are faulty and altogether human in origin" (page 1767); and while "the Scriptures contain much that is true, . . . these writings also contain much that is misrepresentative of the Father in heaven" (1768). The Jesus of THE URANTIA BOOK flatly denounces "this erroneous idea of the absolute perfection of the Scripture record and the infallibility of its teachings" (1768). Likewise, the book says, "There has been no 'fall of man.' The history of the human race is one of progressive evolution . . . " (846). God's covenant with Israel is referred to as "the chosen-people delusion" (1005). And the atonement of Jesus is emphatically denied: "The barbarous idea of appeasing an angry God, of propitiating an offended Lord, of winning the favor of Deity through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood, represents a religion wholly puerile and primitive. . . .It is an affront to God to believe, hold, or teach that innocent blood must be shed in order to win his favor or to divert the fictitious divine wrath" (60). Toward the end of the book we read, "All this concept of atonement and sacrificial salvation is rooted and grounded in selfishness. . . . Salvation should be taken for granted by those who believe in the fatherhood of God" (2017). |
lain:
Thanks for the link. Just confirms my warning about following unfamiliar spirits.
“Do not defile yourselves by turning to mediums or to those who consult… spirits of the dead. I am the Lord your God” (Lev 19:31, NLT). “I will… turn against those who commit spiritual prostitution by putting their trust in mediums or in those who consult the spirits of the dead. I will cut them off from the community” (Lev 20:6, NLT) like I did to “…Saul, because he was unfaithful to the Lord… and he… consulted a medium” (1 Chron 10:13, NLT). “Someone may say to you, ‘Let’s ask the mediums and those who consult the spirits of the dead; …they will tell us what to do. But shouldn’t people ask God for guidance? Should the living seek guidance from the dead? Look to God’s instructions and teachings…’” (Isa 8:19, NLT); for like “the rain and snow… [that] cause the grain to grow…, it is the same with My word…” (Isa 55:10-11 NLT)!
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On the fossil thread Lon had posted a clip and paste he found on the internet hoping o debunk the Neanderthal revelations of the UB. I will respond to him here as it is the appropriate place.
In the narration of the development of what scientist have labeled Neanderthals the UB makes a number of statements which have proven to be correct although science of the time had not known. BTW "Plate Tectonics" were decidedly out of favor by science when the UB was finished in 1934 yet the UB supported AND explained it. Those claims were accepted by science in the late 1950's, early 60's. http://truthbook.com/urantia-book/paper-58-life-establishment-on-urantia?criteria="The Continental Drift"#U58_5_0
WIKI:
"The idea that the seafloor itself moves (and carries the continents with it) as it expands from a central axis was proposed by Harry Hess from Princeton University in the 1960s.[1] The theory is well accepted now, and the phenomenon is known to be caused by convection currents in the plastic, very weak upper mantle, or asthenosphere."
58:5.6 The sea bottoms are more dense than the land masses, and this is what keeps the continents above water. When the sea bottoms are extruded above the sea level, they are found to consist largely of basalt, a form of lava considerably heavier than the granite of the land masses. Again, if the continents were not lighter than the ocean beds, gravity would draw the edges of the oceans up onto the land, but such phenomena are not observable.
58:5.7 The weight of the oceans is also a factor in the increase of pressure on the sea beds. The lower but comparatively heavier ocean beds, plus the weight of the overlying water, approximate the weight of the higher but much lighter continents. But all continents tend to creep into the oceans. The continental pressure at ocean-bottom levels is about 20,000 pounds to the square inch. That is, this would be the pressure of a continental mass standing 15,000 feet above the ocean floor. The ocean-floor water pressure is only about 5,000 pounds to the square inch. These differential pressures tend to cause the continents to slide toward the ocean beds.
But I digress, back to Neanderthals
* 64:4.3 The reindeer was highly useful to these Neanderthal peoples, serving as food, clothing, and for tools, since they made various uses of the horns and bones. They had little culture, but they greatly improved the work in flint until it almost reached the levels of the days of Andon. Large flints attached to wooden handles came back into use and served as axes and picks. UB 1955
Wiki:
"Several cultural assemblages have been linked to the Neanderthals in Europe. The earliest, the Mousterian stone tool culture, dates to about 300,000 years ago. Skinner, A., B. Blackwell, R. Long, M.R. Seronie-Vivien, A.-M. Tillier and J. Blickstein; New ESR dates for a new bone-bearing layer at Pradayrol, Lot, France; Paleoanthropology Society March 28, 2007
Neanderthals mix with more advanced Humans.
64:7.8 "Since the fifth glacier did not extend so far south in Europe, the way was partially open for these Sangik peoples to migrate to the northwest; and upon the retreat of the ice the blue men, together with a few other small racial groups, migrated westward along the old trails of the Andon tribes. They invaded Europe in successive waves, occupying most of the continent.
64:7.9 In Europe they soon encountered the Neanderthal descendants of their early and common ancestor, Andon. These older European Neanderthalers had been driven south and east by the glacier and thus were in position quickly to encounter and absorb their invading cousins of the Sangik tribes.
64:7.10 In general and to start with, the Sangik tribes were more intelligent than, and in most ways far superior to, the deteriorated descendants of the early Andonic plainsmen; and the mingling of these Sangik tribes with the Neanderthal peoples led to the immediate improvement of the older race. It was this infusion of Sangik blood, more especially that of the blue man, which produced that marked improvement in the Neanderthal peoples exhibited by the successive waves of increasingly intelligent tribes that swept over Europe from the east." UB 1955
64:7.11 During the following interglacial period this new Neanderthal race extended from England to India. The remnant of the blue race left in the old Persian peninsula later amalgamated with certain others, primarily the yellow; and the resultant blend, subsequently somewhat upstepped by the violet race of Adam, has persisted as the swarthy nomadic tribes of modern Arabs.
Wiki:
"Studies published in March 2016 suggest that modern humans bred with hominins, including Neanderthals, on multiple occasions.[127] Another study in April 2016 found differences between Homo sapiens and Neanderthal Y chromosomes that, they postulated, could cause female Homo Sapiens to miscarry male babies that had Neanderthal fathers.[128] This could explain why no modern man had to date been found with a Neanderthal Y chromosome.[129] Melanesians and Australoid populations show evidence of only one interbreeding event, possibly ~100,000 years ago, occurring in the Middle East, Europeans show a second event, which may also be of Middle Eastern origin, occurring possibly 50,000 years ago, while East Asians show an additional third interbreeding event possibly 30,000 years ago occurring in Siberia. Evidence that Neanderthal genomic material is often found amongst genes of the immune system suggests that some of the interbreeding may have secured resistance to diseases that Neanderthal populations had bred resistance to."[127]UB 1955
In the narration of the development of what scientist have labeled Neanderthals the UB makes a number of statements which have proven to be correct although science of the time had not known. BTW "Plate Tectonics" were decidedly out of favor by science when the UB was finished in 1934 yet the UB supported AND explained it. Those claims were accepted by science in the late 1950's, early 60's. http://truthbook.com/urantia-book/paper-58-life-establishment-on-urantia?criteria="The Continental Drift"#U58_5_0
WIKI:
"The idea that the seafloor itself moves (and carries the continents with it) as it expands from a central axis was proposed by Harry Hess from Princeton University in the 1960s.[1] The theory is well accepted now, and the phenomenon is known to be caused by convection currents in the plastic, very weak upper mantle, or asthenosphere."
58:5.6 The sea bottoms are more dense than the land masses, and this is what keeps the continents above water. When the sea bottoms are extruded above the sea level, they are found to consist largely of basalt, a form of lava considerably heavier than the granite of the land masses. Again, if the continents were not lighter than the ocean beds, gravity would draw the edges of the oceans up onto the land, but such phenomena are not observable.
58:5.7 The weight of the oceans is also a factor in the increase of pressure on the sea beds. The lower but comparatively heavier ocean beds, plus the weight of the overlying water, approximate the weight of the higher but much lighter continents. But all continents tend to creep into the oceans. The continental pressure at ocean-bottom levels is about 20,000 pounds to the square inch. That is, this would be the pressure of a continental mass standing 15,000 feet above the ocean floor. The ocean-floor water pressure is only about 5,000 pounds to the square inch. These differential pressures tend to cause the continents to slide toward the ocean beds.
But I digress, back to Neanderthals
* 64:4.3 The reindeer was highly useful to these Neanderthal peoples, serving as food, clothing, and for tools, since they made various uses of the horns and bones. They had little culture, but they greatly improved the work in flint until it almost reached the levels of the days of Andon. Large flints attached to wooden handles came back into use and served as axes and picks. UB 1955
Wiki:
"Several cultural assemblages have been linked to the Neanderthals in Europe. The earliest, the Mousterian stone tool culture, dates to about 300,000 years ago. Skinner, A., B. Blackwell, R. Long, M.R. Seronie-Vivien, A.-M. Tillier and J. Blickstein; New ESR dates for a new bone-bearing layer at Pradayrol, Lot, France; Paleoanthropology Society March 28, 2007
Neanderthals mix with more advanced Humans.
64:7.8 "Since the fifth glacier did not extend so far south in Europe, the way was partially open for these Sangik peoples to migrate to the northwest; and upon the retreat of the ice the blue men, together with a few other small racial groups, migrated westward along the old trails of the Andon tribes. They invaded Europe in successive waves, occupying most of the continent.
64:7.9 In Europe they soon encountered the Neanderthal descendants of their early and common ancestor, Andon. These older European Neanderthalers had been driven south and east by the glacier and thus were in position quickly to encounter and absorb their invading cousins of the Sangik tribes.
64:7.10 In general and to start with, the Sangik tribes were more intelligent than, and in most ways far superior to, the deteriorated descendants of the early Andonic plainsmen; and the mingling of these Sangik tribes with the Neanderthal peoples led to the immediate improvement of the older race. It was this infusion of Sangik blood, more especially that of the blue man, which produced that marked improvement in the Neanderthal peoples exhibited by the successive waves of increasingly intelligent tribes that swept over Europe from the east." UB 1955
64:7.11 During the following interglacial period this new Neanderthal race extended from England to India. The remnant of the blue race left in the old Persian peninsula later amalgamated with certain others, primarily the yellow; and the resultant blend, subsequently somewhat upstepped by the violet race of Adam, has persisted as the swarthy nomadic tribes of modern Arabs.
Wiki:
"Studies published in March 2016 suggest that modern humans bred with hominins, including Neanderthals, on multiple occasions.[127] Another study in April 2016 found differences between Homo sapiens and Neanderthal Y chromosomes that, they postulated, could cause female Homo Sapiens to miscarry male babies that had Neanderthal fathers.[128] This could explain why no modern man had to date been found with a Neanderthal Y chromosome.[129] Melanesians and Australoid populations show evidence of only one interbreeding event, possibly ~100,000 years ago, occurring in the Middle East, Europeans show a second event, which may also be of Middle Eastern origin, occurring possibly 50,000 years ago, while East Asians show an additional third interbreeding event possibly 30,000 years ago occurring in Siberia. Evidence that Neanderthal genomic material is often found amongst genes of the immune system suggests that some of the interbreeding may have secured resistance to diseases that Neanderthal populations had bred resistance to."[127]UB 1955
Cool Caveman story
Neanderthals cont>
THE NEANDERTHAL RACES
64:4.1 "The Neanderthalers were excellent fighters, and they traveled extensively. They gradually spread from the highland centers in northwest India to France on the west, China on the east, and even down into northern Africa. They dominated the world for almost half a million years until the times of the migration of the evolutionary races of color." UB 1955
Wiki:
"Neanderthal fossils have not been found to date in Africa, but there have been finds close to North Africa, both on Gibraltar and in the Levant. At some Levantine sites, Neanderthal remains date from after the same sites were vacated by modern humans. Mammal fossils of the same time period show cold-adapted animals were present alongside these Neanderthals in this region of the Eastern Mediterranean. This implies Neanderthals were better adapted biologically to cold weather than modern humans and at times displaced them in parts of the Middle East when the climate got cold enough. However this has been disputed recently through studies of their cranial morphology and sinuses. Some scholars have also posited that Neanderthals could be an Asian species which expanded into Europe, making Neanderthals a tropical species rather than cold adaptive."
THE NEANDERTHAL RACES
64:4.1 "The Neanderthalers were excellent fighters, and they traveled extensively. They gradually spread from the highland centers in northwest India to France on the west, China on the east, and even down into northern Africa. They dominated the world for almost half a million years until the times of the migration of the evolutionary races of color." UB 1955
Wiki:
"Neanderthal fossils have not been found to date in Africa, but there have been finds close to North Africa, both on Gibraltar and in the Levant. At some Levantine sites, Neanderthal remains date from after the same sites were vacated by modern humans. Mammal fossils of the same time period show cold-adapted animals were present alongside these Neanderthals in this region of the Eastern Mediterranean. This implies Neanderthals were better adapted biologically to cold weather than modern humans and at times displaced them in parts of the Middle East when the climate got cold enough. However this has been disputed recently through studies of their cranial morphology and sinuses. Some scholars have also posited that Neanderthals could be an Asian species which expanded into Europe, making Neanderthals a tropical species rather than cold adaptive."
Another 'cult-alert' article on the UB,....btw, Martin Gardner's critical book 'Urantia: The Great Cult Mystery' has been responded to by Meredith J Sprunger here. Also, the 'sleeping subject' is still a mystery. Martin only offers his opinion of who it was, as does anyone else, and its reported he has never even read the papers in their entirety. His amazon.com review gets 2 1/2 stars out of 36 reviewers here. All full UB editions get 4 1/2 or 5 star ratings here
Another claim:
First of all, the UB does NOT teach that Jesus is Michael the archangel. We've gone thru this earlier here on Creator Sons, who are of the order of Michael. Creator Sons are also called 'Michaels', there is more than one. There is no association with Christ-Michael with the traditional-orthodox Judeo-Christian identity of an single archangel named 'Michael',...although the names have been confused over the centuries.
I've also already already addressed the claim that the UB rejects the deity of Jesus Christ here. The papers fully hold that Jesus was both God and Man,...the Son of God and Son of Man. The Christology is different due to the divine hierarchy, cosmic revelation and Deity orders and associations revealed in the papers. Just like the NT has its own terms, meanings and definitions...which were further defined by various church councils, theologians and different schools of thought.
Its still somewhat comical that there is some 'cult' to escape here,...when we're discussing a BOOK. A book is not a cult, neither is there is an official church, organization, fundamental sect or 'cult' that is sponsored or encouraged by the book, as it actually speaks against 'cults' in their negative aspects and potentials....encouraging intellectual and spiritual freedom of every individual to seek the truth for himself, and of course he can gather with like minded souls to form communities to serve the higher good and others, as the gospel presented in the papers is very 'social' in orientation, very family oriented,...encouraging healthy family units and the greater human family under the Fatherhood of God. It recognizes and fosters relationships. All the truths, principles and concepts in the papers serve man's motivation towards spiritual progress and God-consciousness....since that's what life is about....and much more.
Martin Gardner was an Atheist who got some things wrong in his book about the UB.
In the Book of Revelation John saw Christ Michael.
Not just UFO, but occultic séance and possession!
From the Link:
THE URANTIA BOOK... in line with other mediumistic revelations, it is dead-set against...Christian doctrines, including the inerrancy of Scripture, simple Trinitarianism, the Fall of man, original sin, the substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ, faith and repentance for salvation, the resurrection of the flesh, and eternal punishment.THE URANTIA BOOK records Jesus telling his disciple Nathaniel, "The Scriptures are faulty and altogether human in origin" (page 1767); and while "the Scriptures contain much that is true, . . . these writings also contain much that is misrepresentative of the Father in heaven" (1768). The Jesus of THE URANTIA BOOK flatly denounces "this erroneous idea of the absolute perfection of the Scripture record and the infallibility of its teachings" (1768).
Likewise, the book says, "There has been no 'fall of man.' The history of the human race is one of progressive evolution . . . " (846). God's covenant with Israel is referred to as "the chosen-people delusion" (1005). And the atonement of Jesus is emphatically denied:
"The barbarous idea of appeasing an angry God, of propitiating an offended Lord, of winning the favor of Deity through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood, represents a religion wholly puerile and primitive. . . .It is an affront to God to believe, hold, or teach that innocent blood must be shed in order to win his favor or to divert the fictitious divine wrath" (60).
Toward the end of the book we read, "All this concept of atonement and sacrificial salvation is rooted and grounded in selfishness. . . . Salvation should be taken for granted by those who believe in the fatherhood of God" (2017).
That was an interesting history of the UB Cult and its beginnings. The "founders" of this "UFO Cult" were definitely into the occult. Ex-Seventh Day Adventists. The Kellogg (corn flakes) connection is interesting as well. Thanks, Lon.
WIKI:
Prehistoric Britain
"The island was first inhabited by people who crossed over the land bridge from the European mainland. Human footprints have been found from over 800,000 years ago in Norfolk[36] and traces of early humans have been found (at Boxgrove Quarry, Sussex) from some 500,000 years ago[37] and modern humans from about 30,000 years ago.
Until about 14,000 years ago, Great Britain was joined to Ireland, and as recently as 8,000 years ago it was joined to the continent by a strip of low marsh leading to what are now Denmark and the Netherlands.[38] In Cheddar Gorge, near Bristol, the remains of animal species native to mainland Europe such as antelopes, brown bears, and wild horses have been found alongside a human skeleton, 'Cheddar Man', dated to about 7150 BC. Thus, animals and humans must have moved between mainland Europe and Great Britain via a crossing.[39] Great Britain became an island at the end of the last glacial period when sea levels rose due to the combination of melting glaciers and the subsequent isostatic rebound of the crust."
The Ancient Human Occupation of Britain (AHOB) database
http://www.academia.edu/4994416/The_Ancient_Human_Occupation_of_Britain_AHOB_database
Early Migration to Britain Overview
Source: Ubthenews.com
[7/9/09]
The Urantia Book, published in 1955, makes several statements about the early occupation of Britain. Recently, the Ancient Human Occupation of Britain project (“AHOB project”) has made a number of surprising discoveries which support the statements made in The Urantia Book.
Most importantly, the AHOB project findings have pushed the earliest human occupation of Britain back considerably. Until this decade, scientific consensus dated human life in Britain to about 500,000 years ago. However, the AHOB project has discovered two different sites with human artifacts that date to 700,000 years ago. At the first site, off the Norfolk coast near Happisburgh, two hand axes have been found sticking out of the seabed in the remains of an ancient forest. Both hand axes, as well as the forest, were dated to between 500,000 and 700,000 years ago.
The second site, at Pakefield in East Anglia, yielded over thirty worked flint flakes and one flint core- suggesting frequent human visitors to the site. Since the flints were found in sediments that contained microscopic animal bones scientists were able to use a technique called the “vole clock” to date the flints to about 700,000 years ago.
The findings from both sites were announced in 2005 in peer-reviewed articles in Nature. The article makes the importance of these discoveries clear: “Until now, the earliest uncontested artifacts from northern Europe were much younger, suggesting that humans were unable to colonize northern latitudes until about 500 kyr ago.”
However, these recent findings confirm statements made over fifty years earlier in The Urantia Book. The following passages are not sequential; see the full report or citations:
950,000 years ago the descendants of Andon and Fonta [the first two human beings] had migrated far to the east and to the west. To the west they passed over Europe to France and England. . .
During most of the ice age England was connected by land with France. . . At the time of the Andonic migrations there was a continuous land path from England in the west on through Europe . . .
900,000 years ago the arts of Andon and Fonta . . . were vanishing from the face of the earth; culture, religion, and even flintworking were at their lowest ebb.
These were the times when large numbers of inferior mongrel groups were arriving in England from southern France. These tribes were so largely mixed with the forest apelike creatures that they were scarcely human. They had no religion but were crude flintworkers and possessed sufficient intelligence to kindle fire.
They were followed in Europe by a somewhat superior and prolific people, whose descendants soon spread over the entire continent from the ice in the north to the Alps and Mediterranean in the south.
During this long period of cultural decadence the Foxhall peoples of England . . . continued to hold on to some of the traditions of Andon and certain remnants of the culture of Onagar.
The Foxhall peoples were farthest west and succeeded in retaining much of the Andonic culture; they also preserved their knowledge of flintworking, which they transmitted to their descendants, the ancient ancestors of the Eskimos.
Though the remains of the Foxhall peoples were the last to be discovered in England, these Andonites were really the first human beings to live in those regions. At that time the land bridge still connected France with England; and since most of the early settlements of the Andon descendants were located along the rivers and seashores of that early day, they are now under the waters of the English Channel and the North Sea, but some three or four are still above water on the English coast.
700,000 years ago the fourth glacier, the greatest of all in Europe, was in recession; men and animals were returning north. The climate was cool and moist, and primitive man again thrived in Europe and western Asia. Gradually the forests spread north over land which had been so recently covered by the glacier.
The Urantia Book states that the “Foxhall peoples” were the first human occupants of Britain. Interestingly, the name “Foxhall peoples” seems to have come from an obscure 1905 article by Nina Frances Layard detailing her excavation work at the Paleolithic site at Foxhall Road, Ipswich. Layard made a number of remarkable discoveries including early hand axes and remains of extinct mammals, but her work was not widely recognized until 2005, when two AHOB researchers published Miss Layard excavates: the Palaeolithic site at Foxhall Road, Ipswich, 1903-1905. The Urantia Book therefore seems prescient in acknowledging this as an important piece of scholarly work.
The Urantia Book’s description of the “Foxhall peoples” is consistent with the findings of the AHOB project, stating that 1) the “Foxhall peoples” had knowledge of flint working, 2) their settlements were located near rivers and seashores on a land bridge connecting France to Britain, 3) only three or four settlements remain above water, and 4) they lived in this region as far back as 900,000 years ago.
In conclusion, the discoveries made by the AHOB project over the last ten years bring scientific consensus in line with statements made in The Urantia Book, which was published over fifty years ago. Scholars have now pushed back the date for the earliest human occupation of Britain to 700,000 years ago, which is consistent with The Urantia Book’s statements and bring them 200,000 years closer to its claim that humans were actually first there about 900,000 years ago.
Prehistoric Britain
"The island was first inhabited by people who crossed over the land bridge from the European mainland. Human footprints have been found from over 800,000 years ago in Norfolk[36] and traces of early humans have been found (at Boxgrove Quarry, Sussex) from some 500,000 years ago[37] and modern humans from about 30,000 years ago.
Until about 14,000 years ago, Great Britain was joined to Ireland, and as recently as 8,000 years ago it was joined to the continent by a strip of low marsh leading to what are now Denmark and the Netherlands.[38] In Cheddar Gorge, near Bristol, the remains of animal species native to mainland Europe such as antelopes, brown bears, and wild horses have been found alongside a human skeleton, 'Cheddar Man', dated to about 7150 BC. Thus, animals and humans must have moved between mainland Europe and Great Britain via a crossing.[39] Great Britain became an island at the end of the last glacial period when sea levels rose due to the combination of melting glaciers and the subsequent isostatic rebound of the crust."
The Ancient Human Occupation of Britain (AHOB) database
http://www.academia.edu/4994416/The_Ancient_Human_Occupation_of_Britain_AHOB_database
Early Migration to Britain Overview
Source: Ubthenews.com
[7/9/09]
The Urantia Book, published in 1955, makes several statements about the early occupation of Britain. Recently, the Ancient Human Occupation of Britain project (“AHOB project”) has made a number of surprising discoveries which support the statements made in The Urantia Book.
Most importantly, the AHOB project findings have pushed the earliest human occupation of Britain back considerably. Until this decade, scientific consensus dated human life in Britain to about 500,000 years ago. However, the AHOB project has discovered two different sites with human artifacts that date to 700,000 years ago. At the first site, off the Norfolk coast near Happisburgh, two hand axes have been found sticking out of the seabed in the remains of an ancient forest. Both hand axes, as well as the forest, were dated to between 500,000 and 700,000 years ago.
The second site, at Pakefield in East Anglia, yielded over thirty worked flint flakes and one flint core- suggesting frequent human visitors to the site. Since the flints were found in sediments that contained microscopic animal bones scientists were able to use a technique called the “vole clock” to date the flints to about 700,000 years ago.
The findings from both sites were announced in 2005 in peer-reviewed articles in Nature. The article makes the importance of these discoveries clear: “Until now, the earliest uncontested artifacts from northern Europe were much younger, suggesting that humans were unable to colonize northern latitudes until about 500 kyr ago.”
However, these recent findings confirm statements made over fifty years earlier in The Urantia Book. The following passages are not sequential; see the full report or citations:
950,000 years ago the descendants of Andon and Fonta [the first two human beings] had migrated far to the east and to the west. To the west they passed over Europe to France and England. . .
During most of the ice age England was connected by land with France. . . At the time of the Andonic migrations there was a continuous land path from England in the west on through Europe . . .
900,000 years ago the arts of Andon and Fonta . . . were vanishing from the face of the earth; culture, religion, and even flintworking were at their lowest ebb.
These were the times when large numbers of inferior mongrel groups were arriving in England from southern France. These tribes were so largely mixed with the forest apelike creatures that they were scarcely human. They had no religion but were crude flintworkers and possessed sufficient intelligence to kindle fire.
They were followed in Europe by a somewhat superior and prolific people, whose descendants soon spread over the entire continent from the ice in the north to the Alps and Mediterranean in the south.
During this long period of cultural decadence the Foxhall peoples of England . . . continued to hold on to some of the traditions of Andon and certain remnants of the culture of Onagar.
The Foxhall peoples were farthest west and succeeded in retaining much of the Andonic culture; they also preserved their knowledge of flintworking, which they transmitted to their descendants, the ancient ancestors of the Eskimos.
Though the remains of the Foxhall peoples were the last to be discovered in England, these Andonites were really the first human beings to live in those regions. At that time the land bridge still connected France with England; and since most of the early settlements of the Andon descendants were located along the rivers and seashores of that early day, they are now under the waters of the English Channel and the North Sea, but some three or four are still above water on the English coast.
700,000 years ago the fourth glacier, the greatest of all in Europe, was in recession; men and animals were returning north. The climate was cool and moist, and primitive man again thrived in Europe and western Asia. Gradually the forests spread north over land which had been so recently covered by the glacier.
The Urantia Book states that the “Foxhall peoples” were the first human occupants of Britain. Interestingly, the name “Foxhall peoples” seems to have come from an obscure 1905 article by Nina Frances Layard detailing her excavation work at the Paleolithic site at Foxhall Road, Ipswich. Layard made a number of remarkable discoveries including early hand axes and remains of extinct mammals, but her work was not widely recognized until 2005, when two AHOB researchers published Miss Layard excavates: the Palaeolithic site at Foxhall Road, Ipswich, 1903-1905. The Urantia Book therefore seems prescient in acknowledging this as an important piece of scholarly work.
The Urantia Book’s description of the “Foxhall peoples” is consistent with the findings of the AHOB project, stating that 1) the “Foxhall peoples” had knowledge of flint working, 2) their settlements were located near rivers and seashores on a land bridge connecting France to Britain, 3) only three or four settlements remain above water, and 4) they lived in this region as far back as 900,000 years ago.
In conclusion, the discoveries made by the AHOB project over the last ten years bring scientific consensus in line with statements made in The Urantia Book, which was published over fifty years ago. Scholars have now pushed back the date for the earliest human occupation of Britain to 700,000 years ago, which is consistent with The Urantia Book’s statements and bring them 200,000 years closer to its claim that humans were actually first there about 900,000 years ago.
Hey, Caino,I knew the UB was kind of "Flakey" that is: corn flakey.
The "characters" in the UB are fictional, Caino. I'm trying to bring you back to reality and away from your little green men floating around in their UFOs.
Caino, you ought to read the article, it may open up your eyes in order to see the reality of the cult that you follow?
The debate over Saltational speciation and gradualism is not at all settled as Lon's aforementioned and now debunked hit piece stated.
Saltation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltation_(biology)
This is the specific and bold statement made by the UB in the 1930's.
THE TRANSITION PERIOD
58:6.1 450,000,000 years ago the transition from vegetable to animal life occurred. This metamorphosis took place in the shallow waters of the sheltered tropic bays and lagoons of the extensive shore lines of the separating continents. And this development, all of which was inherent in the original life patterns, came about gradually. There were many transitional stages between the early primitive vegetable forms of life and the later well-defined animal organisms. Even today the transition slime molds persist, and they can hardly be classified either as plants or as animals.
58:6.2 Although the evolution of vegetable life can be traced into animal life, and though there have been found graduated series of plants and animals which progressively lead up from the most simple to the most complex and advanced organisms, you will not be able to find such connecting links between the great divisions of the animal kingdom nor between the highest of the prehuman animal types and the dawn men of the human races. These so-called "missing links" will forever remain missing, for the simple reason that they never existed.
58:6.3 From era to era radically new species of animal life arise. They do not evolve as the result of the gradual accumulation of small variations; they appear as full-fledged and new orders of life, and they appear suddenly.
58:6.4 The sudden appearance of new species and diversified orders of living organisms is wholly biologic, strictly natural. There is nothing supernatural connected with these genetic mutations." UB 1955
Saltation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltation_(biology)
This is the specific and bold statement made by the UB in the 1930's.
THE TRANSITION PERIOD
58:6.1 450,000,000 years ago the transition from vegetable to animal life occurred. This metamorphosis took place in the shallow waters of the sheltered tropic bays and lagoons of the extensive shore lines of the separating continents. And this development, all of which was inherent in the original life patterns, came about gradually. There were many transitional stages between the early primitive vegetable forms of life and the later well-defined animal organisms. Even today the transition slime molds persist, and they can hardly be classified either as plants or as animals.
58:6.2 Although the evolution of vegetable life can be traced into animal life, and though there have been found graduated series of plants and animals which progressively lead up from the most simple to the most complex and advanced organisms, you will not be able to find such connecting links between the great divisions of the animal kingdom nor between the highest of the prehuman animal types and the dawn men of the human races. These so-called "missing links" will forever remain missing, for the simple reason that they never existed.
58:6.3 From era to era radically new species of animal life arise. They do not evolve as the result of the gradual accumulation of small variations; they appear as full-fledged and new orders of life, and they appear suddenly.
58:6.4 The sudden appearance of new species and diversified orders of living organisms is wholly biologic, strictly natural. There is nothing supernatural connected with these genetic mutations." UB 1955
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Free Thinking allowed........
Free Thinking allowed........
This is most interesting about 'missing links',....and the fossil record appears to concur with the UB's explanation, do you think?
I'll try to keep commentary on the Foreward going for contemplating fundamentals of theology/cosmogony, plus some awesome news about NASA's space Kepler telescope identifying over a thousand new planets - also that out of all the new planets discovered, some revolving around stars and in a 'habitable' zone...there may currently be 8 - 10 that may support life. Since we are just beginning to develop new technology, methods and telescopes....the number of planets being found in just this little sector of the universe and beyond is growing. The papers speak of millions of inhabited worlds, which is quite reasonable and logical given the unlimited potential of creation, unfolding in space and time, thru-out eternity-infinity.
Free Thinking allowed........
This is most interesting about 'missing links',....and the fossil record appears to concur with the UB's explanation, do you think?
I'll try to keep commentary on the Foreward going for contemplating fundamentals of theology/cosmogony, plus some awesome news about NASA's space Kepler telescope identifying over a thousand new planets
- also that out of all the new planets discovered, some revolving around stars and in a 'habitable' zone...there may currently be 8 - 10 that may support life. Since we are just beginning to develop new technology, methods and telescopes....the number of planets being found in just this little sector of the universe and beyond is growing. The papers speak of millions of inhabited worlds, which is quite reasonable and logical given the unlimited potential of creation, unfolding in space and time, thru-out eternity-infinity.
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