This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

[ClimateSanity]

See that guy, with the hose, trying to wash away the truth. Shame on him.

Yeah, sure, you shouldn't vandalize people's property, they can take that claim down to the police station and file a report. But making a public monument on public grounds to these abhorrent acts is the real shame.

No Stalin. Shame on you.

 

[WizardofOz]

To be fair, is this what 'emboldened conservatives' do?

Spoiler

This simplistic tribal-think is a bit counterproductive, don't you think? :think:

 

[rexlunae]

There is only one reason for such a *monument* to be displayed. It's for the sole purpose of enraging and antagonizing. Apparently, it accomplished it's goal. Not sure what the beef is ... :think:

It feeds the victim-hood narrative that some have, and that is regrettable. But they found reasons to feel unjustifiably aggrieved before spray-paint was invented. But, for me, it just isn't even remotely on the level of the monument itself. If I grew up in a place that systematically encouraged violence against me, and built monuments that justify it, I might be pretty upset to, to the point of doing something illegal like scrawling a message, out of frustration and a need to put out a truth that no one wants to hear. I can't find it in myself to fault that reaction.

Call me chaotic good.

 

[Tambora]

Emboldened liberals have such a way with words.

Don't look if you are offended by emboldened liberal talk.

Spoiler

 

[ClimateSanity]

To be fair, is this what 'emboldened conservatives' do?

Spoiler

This simplistic tribal-think is a bit counterproductive, don't you think? :think:

Emboldened conservatives vote. Start talk shows. Forward their causes on facebook. Write editorials. Join causes. Boycott. Don't cower to totalitarians on boards like this.

 

[WizardofOz]

Emboldened conservatives vote. Start talk shows. Forward their causes on face. Don't cower to totalitarians on boards like this.

Do some of them also....:idea: vandalize?

 

[Tambora]

History.
Emboldened liberals say SMASH IT!

 

[ClimateSanity]

Do some of them also....:idea: vandalize?

Idiot conservatives might.

 

[Rusha]

It feeds the victim-hood narrative that some have, and that is regrettable. But they found reasons to feel unjustifiably aggrieved before spray-paint was invented. But, for me, it just isn't even remotely on the level of the monument itself. If I grew up in a place that systematically encouraged violence against me, and built monuments that justify it, I might be pretty upset to, to the point of doing something illegal like scrawling a message, out of frustration and a need to put out a truth that no one wants to hear. I can't find it in myself to fault that reaction.

Call me chaotic good.

Indeed ... freedom of speech does not equate to "I can say and display anything I wish ... consequence free". The consequence ... you may not care for the response.

 

[Foxfire]

Idiot

Three syllables? Nice response! :thumb:

 

[WizardofOz]

Idiot conservatives might.

Could it also be the same for the endless examples of vandalism that Tambora is linking to?

Is it possible that vandals are idiots, regardless of their political tribe?

 

[Town Heretic]

That's mildly amusing, seeing it coming from the very guy who reported her

I'd say be honest in your criticism, but even I'm not that much of an optimist.

What I reported was her spamming the thread with photos that were burying the attempts of some to have a conversation on the point. Others have been banned for less. I just wanted her to cut that out and engage or start a "Tam's Photo Spectacular" thread elsewhere.

Here's what I wrote in that:

Wanted to protest Tam spamming the thread with monument photos sans any attempt to speak to the issue. Maybe she should start a "Confederate Monument Photo" thread instead of acting like a troll in this one where people are attempting to speak to the issues.

and wants her shut down.

I'd want anyone trolling a thread repeatedly while people were trying to speak to an issue given a heads up. One photo is a point. Dozens are something else.

Textbook example of dramatic irony.

You don't appear to understand either my objection or what dramatic irony means.

Tends to happen to the most tragically self-ignorant of characters like yourself.

You only do this because reason won't support you in a better effort. Why that doesn't embarrass you into silence or an alteration of conduct is anyone's guess.

 

[kmoney]

Idiot conservatives might.

So why do you grant that for conservatives but seem willing to broad-brush liberals?

 

[WizardofOz]

Three syllables? Nice response! :thumb:

One of my favorite movies of all time! You have inspired me to change my avatar. I love Egg Shen!

 

[WizardofOz]

I think it would depend on how the monuments are taken down. If a community decides to remove one then I'm not sure how your liberty is being removed.

:first:

Well said

 

[rexlunae]

So why do you grant that for conservatives but seem willing to broad-brush liberals?

Haven't you heard? Only conservatives are individual. Liberals are just another group of indistinct, like-minded drones.

 

[Tambora]

The emboldened liberal's logic .....


"There was a historical general for the Confederacy in the Civil War, and there is a stature of him???
OMG, smash it to smithereens!!!!!!!"

 

[WizardofOz]

This pace reminds me of aCultureWarrior posting pics of homosexuals

 

[Town Heretic]

"There was a historical general for the Confederacy in the Civil War, and there is a stature of him???
OMG, smash it to smithereens!!!!!!!"

Rather, communities are finding support from some of us who understand the history, why they'd find association with their communities and those monuments objectionable and want to remove them.

 

[ClimateSanity]

I think it would depend on how the monuments are taken down. If a community decides to remove one then I'm not sure how your liberty is being removed.

If it's a minority that removes them, it's totalitarian. What is going on is no different than ISIS destroying monuments. If you want to remove a culture from your society, remove it's history first. Our history has already been revised beyond recognition by the stalinists in our society. They have been taking down our visual reminders too. Soon, we will have no real history and we can safely be removed from society like has already begun. Much of the remaining members of our society have been relegated to the backwoods and left to live off government scraps and opioids.