toldailytopic: Is it always wrong to kill another human?

[Uberpod1]

Yes, it is always wrong.

Sadly, however, it is sometimes necessary.

Correct! :first:

 

[Sherman]

The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for January 29th, 2013 06:00 AM

toldailytopic: Is it always wrong to kill another human?

The answer is no.

Cases of justifiable killing:
1. Self defense.
2. The person is a Murderer, Rapist, Pedophile or Kidnapper--to be punished by Governing Authorities.
3. In a war scenario.

In cases where it is not justified:

1. Terminating an unwanted unborn child.
2. 'Putting someone down' because they are disabled.
3. Assisted Suicide.

 

[resurrected]

What semantic fun. Helps with the circular reasoning.

It hinges on justice :idunno:

for example:

Jeffrey Dahmer killing his victims? Unjust

The State of Wisconsin executing Jeffrey Dahmer for his crimes? Just



If it's still unclear I can use finger puppets

 

[Nick M]

If it was always wrong, how could it possibly ever be necessary? What an idiot thing to say from a gigantic hell bound fool. He probably means murdering children he might not want to take care of.

 

[fool]

I don't see how that becomes your decision to make.

It's called self defense.

 

[fool]

What semantic fun. Helps with the circular reasoning.

Words mean things.

 

[Uberpod1]

Sadism is never pretty - not even when couched in motives like self-defense, revenge, or justice.

 

[resurrected]

Sadism is never pretty - not even when couched in motives like self-defense, revenge, or justice.

Is it more sadistic to kill a convicted murderer quickly, or to lock him in a prison for forty years?

 

[resurrected]

Words mean things.

in barbie's case, they mean whatever he wants them to.

for example, you mentioned "words" in the above

Using barbie's reckoning, you therefore have "attacked" words :chuckle:



Don't even get me started on Texas legislators and Washington Post correspondents :darwinsm:

 

[bybee]

Sadism is never pretty - not even when couched in motives like self-defense, revenge, or justice.

Self defense is not sadism.

 

[Rusha]

Self defense is not sadism.

Unless it's done in a creatively ...

:chuckle:

 

[bybee]

You can do whatever you want. That was never the issue. Even the criminals do whatever they want. But then how are you any different from a criminal?

The idea I disagree with is the idea that the sins of others somehow justify our own. When Jesus came upon the adulteress he didn't dispute her guilt. But he did point out to those who sought to punish her for her sins that they were guilty of plenty of sins of their own. And by this reasoning he stopped them from carrying out their intended punishment.

God has not appointed us to judge, condemn, or punish anyone else. In fact, He denied us this 'privilege' so long we are still guilty of our own sins. And who among us is not guilty of our own sins?

If we are mandated, and we are, to preserve life in the womb because it is a gift from God then it follows that my life is sacred and I have a mandate to preserve my self from destruction.

 

[fool]

Sadism is never pretty - not even when couched in motives like self-defense, revenge, or justice.

How is self defense sadism?

 

[Uberpod1]

Self defense is not sadism.

No, it is not. Joy in it surely is.

 

[bybee]

Not it is not. Joy in it surely is.

My though is that if I were pushed to defend myself and my attacker died, I would grieve over that. But my right to exist demands that I protect myself.

 

[Uberpod1]

If it's still unclear I can use finger puppets

You are a finger puppet.... controlled by knight's pinky.

 

[Uberpod1]

My though is that if I were pushed to defend myself and my attacker died, I would grieve over that. But my right to exist demands that I protect myself.

Ok.

 

[resurrected]

You are a finger puppet.... controlled by knight's pinky.

Are you aware that Squeaky took your sig line as an excuse for leaving? :chuckle:

 

[TomO]

Not it is not. Joy in it surely is.

I agree completely. lain:

 

[Uberpod1]

Are you aware that Squeaky took your sig line as an excuse for leaving? :chuckle:

I am caught awares! Maybe because I was banned for a year.

My sig line is true. Others can decide whether it is figurative or literal.