Total financial and moral ruin
toldailytopic: What will 4 more years of Obama mean for this country?
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those who voted for obama will get hurt the most
unless you are
a union member
a feminist
two guys living together
a terrorist
unless you are
a union member
a feminist
two guys living together
a terrorist
BigBoof1959
New member
If anyone wants to venture a guess as to what 4 more years of Obama will mean to the U.S. I suggest reading book 6 of Polybius' "General Histories of the Wars of the Romans". The first few sections deal with the origin of government among men and the predictable changes that take place in the form of government due to the inherent weaknesses of humans. He also says that though the speed at which change takes place varies, the sequence of events is always the same.
"Democracy", or even a "representative form of government" where groups of people elect someone they believe to be qualified to represent their interests, is on it's way out, and for reasons that were not as applicable on as wide a scale in Polybius' day as they are in ours . One of the biggest drivers of this is the rapid increase in technical knowledge. It seems that the more advanced technology becomes, the more limited is the group of people who have the ability to master the knowledge necessary, or to find the capital that it takes, to put the new technology to use. The sheer volume of extremely detailed knowledge being accumulated through the use of computers, combined with the limitations of the human brain, also guarantees that very few people will have the time or ability to integrate enough of the vast array of knowledge from all the different fields of study to be able to judge what the best course of action might be.
Looking for a "manufacturing renaissance" to bring better times is a false hope. I work in manufacturing, and the big thing these days is automation. Those who lose their job to a machine are told to go back to school for more education. When they do, what do they find is the area of biggest demand and what course of study are they encouraged to pursue? How to build a better, more efficient machine so more of their former colleagues can be put out of work! And even though it takes workers to design, build and maintain them, these machines still replace more workers than they require. If they didn't there would be no demand for them. We are going to have a lot of adjusting to do.
"Democracy", or even a "representative form of government" where groups of people elect someone they believe to be qualified to represent their interests, is on it's way out, and for reasons that were not as applicable on as wide a scale in Polybius' day as they are in ours . One of the biggest drivers of this is the rapid increase in technical knowledge. It seems that the more advanced technology becomes, the more limited is the group of people who have the ability to master the knowledge necessary, or to find the capital that it takes, to put the new technology to use. The sheer volume of extremely detailed knowledge being accumulated through the use of computers, combined with the limitations of the human brain, also guarantees that very few people will have the time or ability to integrate enough of the vast array of knowledge from all the different fields of study to be able to judge what the best course of action might be.
Looking for a "manufacturing renaissance" to bring better times is a false hope. I work in manufacturing, and the big thing these days is automation. Those who lose their job to a machine are told to go back to school for more education. When they do, what do they find is the area of biggest demand and what course of study are they encouraged to pursue? How to build a better, more efficient machine so more of their former colleagues can be put out of work! And even though it takes workers to design, build and maintain them, these machines still replace more workers than they require. If they didn't there would be no demand for them. We are going to have a lot of adjusting to do.
Unless the Republicans will wake up and see that they need to change it will mean GRIDLOCK...that will not help anybody.
Are you saying the Democrats don't have to wake up?
It will mean business as usual since the days of Regan. Politics has become so deeply partisan than very little will actually be accomplished. And some how it will still cost me more in taxes.
Man I've gotten cynical!
Yup!
1. Mountains of debt.
2. Bail outs.
3. Jobs exported overseas.
4. Illegal immigrants giving voting rights and health coverage.
5. A sharp decline in full time jobs offered by companies--To duck past Obamacare.
6. More money exported overseas to fund 'underprivileged' perverts.
7. A smaller military.
8. More 'Social Engineering' pushed on servicemen.
9. More dirty under the table politics.
10. More scandals swept under the carpet
11. More stupid fumbling speeches!
Newman
New member
It should lead, oddly enough, to a greater likelihood of bipartisan efforts along with jockeying by both parties to claim their part had the more consequential impact on the ongoing recovery. And it should make people like chrys abandon the "kill the party" approach, stop needlessly dividing over larger ideological issues an push toward a growing national consensus on abortion leading to an amendment of both party plank and Constitution in the not too distant.
HisServant
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A viable 3rd party in 2016
You are not becoming cynical CM, your becoming a realist....
How much debt will Barry run up in these four years?? 4 trillion more?? Or will he outpace himself?
The dow is. :smokie:
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drbrumley
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What's going to happen the next four years? More of the same. The debt will grow, unemployment will rise, prices on groceries will get more out of control. Taxes WILL BE A BURDEN ON THE POOR as well as the rich, Drones over America. Sad part is, it really didn't matter who won this election. Both subscribe to Keynesian economics. Stock up folks, cause we will need to.
Oh and BTW, Obama will continue to be the weapon dealer's best friend. Inadvertently of course.