Trump sez: Transgenders B gone!

ok doser

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It's not OK to be a homophobic bigot . Saying it's "not OK to be gay " is like saying "It's not OK to be left-handed ". And I'm s southpaw and proud of it !

ok, how about this?


it's not ok to engage in homosexual sex (which is one of the defining characteristics of being gay)
 

JudgeRightly

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The first part is to get JudgeRightly to acknowledge that his chart is not accurate.

No, the first part is to establish that errors in genetic code do not make a new gender.

A normal mother will always have two X Chromosomes.

A normal father will always have an X and a Y Chromosome.

If you want to do a punnett square with one or more people with abnormal numbers of chromosomes, by all means, do. Just realize that they're ABNORMAL.

NORMAL Punnett squares have two chromosomes from each parent and four possible NORMAL outcomes.

Extra chromosomes are usually the result of an error in cell division.

https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=90&ContentID=P02126
 

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No, the first part is to establish that errors in genetic code do not make a new gender.
But people do have them.

A normal mother will always have two X Chromosomes.

A normal father will always have an X and a Y Chromosome.
But everyone is not normal.

If you want to do a punnett square with one or more people with abnormal numbers of chromosomes, by all means, do. Just realize that they're ABNORMAL.
But they're still people.
NORMAL Punnett squares have two chromosomes from each parent and four possible NORMAL outcomes.
But everyone is not normal.
Extra chromosomes are usually the result of an error in cell division.

https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=90&ContentID=P02126
But people who have them are still people yes?
 

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But people do have them.

Doesn't make them not errors...

So what's your point?

But everyone is not normal.

And? The number of people who have

The percentage of those who are NOT normal (ie "XX" and "XY") is statistically insignificant. My point remains.

But they're still people.[/QUOTE

Duh. Never said they weren't, so what's your point?

But everyone is not normal.

Supra.

But people who have them are still people yes?

Supra.
 

ok doser

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But people do have them.

But everyone is not normal.

But they're still people.

But everyone is not normal.

But people who have them are still people yes?

Doesn't make them not errors...

So what's your point?

And? The number of people who have

The percentage of those who are NOT normal (ie "XX" and "XY") is statistically insignificant. My point remains.

Duh. Never said they weren't, so what's your point?

Supra.

Supra.

so what I'm getting here is that they're people with errors in their genetic code and they're not normal

i think both jr and fool would agree on that much


to me, the question becomes "how does society deal with the non-normal?"

to many (not saying you, fool) the insistence is that they be viewed as variants of normal and accommodated in ways that the majority finds problematic

because of feelings, etc



not sure if either of you are familiar with ben shapiro's youtube videos

here's his response to a similar question:
 

ok doser

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The percentage of those who are NOT normal (ie "XX" and "XY") is statistically insignificant.


XXY prevalence is estimated at 1:500

that's 0.2%

small percentage, large when extrapolated to the total population = 15,200,000 worldwide

651,400 in the states


you probably know one

in fact, they are as likely to be unaware of it as you are
 

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OK, now that we've solidified that we go back to the diagram.
Let's make it crystal clear to everyone what the expectation is with the rest room.
We put an XX on one door and an XY on the other door.
Simple enough yes?
Here comes the XXY, looks to me like they can use either rest room.
XX present? (checks chromosomes) YES. Enters rest room.
XY present? (checks chromosomes) YES. Enters rest room.
There's the point, and it's not even a point it's an observation of reality.
Objections? Anyone?
 

ok doser

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You're out for dinner at a nice restaurant. Your elderly mother excuses herself and enters the restroom marked XX. Shortly after, she's followed by this:

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do you react?




or, shortly after she's followed by this:

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do you react?
 
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