UNITED STATES OF HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE -LEGAL

Quetzal

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The LGBT movement is built on hate and lies. It is vicious and merciless to anyone that crosses its path. But if Christians confront it with truth and love the whole house of cards will come falling down.
Pretty sure you have those two things backwards...
 

Jonahdog

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Your motto....." It's about the road, not the destination".
Then why be on a road ? If no destination ? Wondering about, no objective .

Matthew 7:13
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

So speaking of roads---do you drive and thereby use the "system's" roads? I guess not unless your disclaimer has some dishonesty in it.
 

Jonahdog

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The LGBT movement is built on hate and lies. It is vicious and merciless to anyone that crosses its path. But if Christians confront it with truth and love the whole house of cards will come falling down.

Then I guess your side has not been doing a very truthful or loving job.
 

geralduk

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There is a great flaw in democracy and a hidden snare to the unwary . Which is the idea that if you have a majority (by any means) you cna delude yourself into thinking the truth is what you say it is or make it.
It seems the whole world has gone delusional and the President and the Supreme court of the USA has forgotten the difference between what is equal BEFORE the law and what is equal IN law.
In principle all men are equal before the law as to there biong no bias or effect as to whether you are rich or poor black or white homosexual or not.
I speak of principle not always practice. That a man charged with a crime is dealt with according to law not by any other consideration of fear or favour.
But to make homosexuality equal IN law with that which is not .Is absurd.
For to make equal IN law what is not equial in FACT is to make a lie equal to the truth in law .
What is asserted as a marriage in law of two people of the same sex cannot be anything but an assertion .For no two people of the same sex can be made one in a union or married .
Thus to make such a facade (for that is all it is) equal in law with what is not equal in fact .Is again to make a lie equal to the truth in law.
TRUE Justice is founded upon righteous judgment .Not on the vain and Godless assertions of human rights and the subjective feelings and perceptions of equality .
By so doing you both corrupt the law and cast righteous judgment out of the window as well as brign confusion to the legal system that is supposed to try test and prove tjhat which is true.
No good will come of it .Or can.
"For woe unto them that call good evil and evil good."
 

Gurucam

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Christianity and same sex mariages and the U.S.A.

Christianity and same sex mariages and the U.S.A.

Christianity and same sex marriages and the U.S.A.

An extract of the transcript: Obama’s remarks on Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage

This morning, the Supreme Court recognized that the Constitution guarantees marriage equality. In doing so, they have reaffirmed that all Americans are entitled to the equal protection of the law; that all people should be treated equally, regardless of who they are or who they [size=+2]love[/size].

[Live updates: Reaction outside the court, analysis and more]
This decision will end the patchwork system we currently have. It will end the uncertainty hundreds of thousands of same-sex couples face from not knowing whether they’re marriage, legitimate in the eyes of one state, will remain if they decide to move or even visit another.
This ruling will strengthen all of our communities by offering to all [size=+2]loving[/size] same-sex couples the dignity of marriage across this great land
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Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become [size=+1]dead to the law[/size] by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of [size=+1]sins, which were by the law[/size], did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But [size=+1]now we are [size=+2]delivered[/size] from the law[/size], that being dead wherein we were held; [size=+2]that we should serve in newness of spirit[/size], and [size=+2]not[/size] in the oldness of the letter
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The essential fabric of 'spirit' (with respect to serving in the newness of spirit) conforms to the Spirit of God. The Spirit of God are urgings of [size=+2]love[/size].
John: 4 KJV N.T.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
1 John: 4 KJV N.T.
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for [size=+2]God is love[/size]
Transgressing ideals and law so as to serve in the newness of spirit is the basis of Christianity. This is to ignore and transgress ideals and laws (like the ten commandments) in order to serve love, unconditionally. This is the essential basis of (authentic) Christianity.

The U.S.A. is at the cutting edge of the world wide transformation to a spiritual age. Clearly they have their fingers on the pulse of world consciousness. This is resulting from a shift in the world collective consciousness. This is a movement of the world wide reality which was dominated by the essentially 'dead' Old System under the ideals and laws of Moses and Peter. Peter's commission is anchored by the 'seen' physical and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus.

The U.S.A. do not determine world policies. They are simply first to recognize unfolding new world consciousness and they adapt and respond. This enables them to be primarily relevant to the world. They will leave everyone behind again.

A New system is taking root. This is according to serving in the newness of spirit. This is rooted in the commission which was rendered onto Paul. Paul's commission is anchored by the 'not seen' and eternal Spirit, Son of God, Lord Jesus. Where this Spirit is present and rules, humans have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress all ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity (including the Ten Commandments) so as to serve those urgings of love which arises and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within one heart for those those specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation.

However all those Old Mosaic and Peter people (including traditional Christians) who falsely believe that they are Christians will not approve this new transformation to a spiritual age. The spiritual age is under the the 'not seen' and eternal Spirit, Son of God, Lord Jesus which is New approach. This New approach was exemplified by and committed onto, only Paul.

Those Old Mosaic and Peter people (including traditional Christians) who falsely believe that they are Christians are completely committed to the 'seen' physical and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus. This is the Old approach. This approach has long been done away with for spiritually aware people and Christians. This is now been fully recognized and implement formally, worldwide.

Under Grace of God, Peter & Co. and their commission are 'done away with'. Paul and his commission is being fully instated.

You will recall quite recently that: the U.S.A. removed the Ten Commandments from one of their judicial precincts. This recognition of gay marriages is simply another forward evolutionary move to meet and be relevant in the new unfolding spiritual age. In a spiritual age, love is held absolutely supreme over any ideal or law of society, morality and religiosity (like the ten Commandments).

I am in no way gay. However I do support everyone's right to have an equal place on earth when their motivation is rooted in the absolutely free expression of urgings of love which arises and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within their individual hearts for those those specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation..
 

rougueone

New member
Christianity and same sex marriages and the U.S.A.





The essential fabric of 'spirit' (with respect to serving in the newness of spirit) conforms to the Spirit of God. The Spirit of God are urgings of [size=+2]love[/size].


Transgressing ideals and law so as to serve in the newness of spirit is the basis of Christianity. This is to ignore and transgress ideals and laws (like the ten commandments) in order to serve love, unconditionally. This is the essential basis of (authentic) Christianity.

The U.S.A. is at the cutting edge of the world wide transformation to a spiritual age. Clearly they have their fingers on the pulse of world consciousness. This is resulting from a shift in the world collective consciousness. This is a movement of the world wide reality which was dominated by the essentially 'dead' Old System under the ideals and laws of Moses and Peter. Peter's commission is anchored by the 'seen' physical and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus.

The U.S.A. do not determine world policies. They are simply first to recognize unfolding new world consciousness and they adapt and respond. This enables them to be primarily relevant to the world. They will leave everyone behind again.

A New system is taking root. This is according to serving in the newness of spirit. This is rooted in the commission which was rendered onto Paul. Paul's commission is anchored by the 'not seen' and eternal Spirit, Son of God, Lord Jesus. Where this Spirit is present and rules, humans have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress all ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity (including the Ten Commandments) so as to serve those urgings of love which arises and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within one heart for those those specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation.

However all those Old Mosaic and Peter people (including traditional Christians) who falsely believe that they are Christians will not approve this new transformation to a spiritual age. The spiritual age is under the the 'not seen' and eternal Spirit, Son of God, Lord Jesus which is New approach. This New approach was exemplified by and committed onto, only Paul.

Those Old Mosaic and Peter people (including traditional Christians) who falsely believe that they are Christians are completely committed to the 'seen' physical and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus. This is the Old approach. This approach has long been done away with for spiritually aware people and Christians. This is now been fully recognized and implement formally, worldwide.

Under Grace of God, Peter & Co. and their commission are 'done away with'. Paul and his commission is being fully instated.

You will recall quite recently that: the U.S.A. removed the Ten Commandments from one of their judicial precincts. This recognition of gay marriages is simply another forward evolutionary move to meet and be relevant in the new unfolding spiritual age. In a spiritual age, love is held absolutely supreme over any ideal or law of society, morality and religiosity (like the ten Commandments).

I am in no way gay. However I do support everyone's right to have an equal place on earth when their motivation is rooted in the absolutely free expression of urgings of love which arises and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within their individual hearts for those those specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation..


A New system is taking root. This is according to serving in the newness of spirit. -----the new unfolding spiritual age

Yes, the "New World of ages-order, is firmly in place. Note the objectives on U.S. currency: Novus Ordo Seclorum is:
"A New Order of the Ages". Ecclesiastical Latin. A very specific language used by the Vatican. To give you an idea of who is running the U.S.. Goes back to before 1776. It is not the U.S. as many believe. The U.S. is a creation of the Vatican. The U.S. is solely controlled by the Vatican. Because it owns it.
No matter how you spin this. Your still serving a religion.


God drew the line in whose love is to be honored. HIS. Man's perspective of love is twisted.

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9

" Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. Jeremiah 17:5


Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is. Jeremiah 17:7
 
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